Tua just isn't active enough? ROFL....... I think someone needs to watch his bout with the President.......
Tua didn't fear Ibeabuchi because like many people at the time of their fight, he likely never heard of him. But he did fear Lewis and he did wince in pain from Chris Byrd's body shots. Boxing is subjective but your analysis is poor, Tua never beat anyone as good as a 96 Tyson in his entire career yet he's going to break down Mike and stop him in the mid rounds? To beat Tyson you need to outmaneuver him; you need to land early and often and you need to keep him from landing. Douglas kept Tyson on the outside and hit him the long jabs and right hand leads. He kept Tyson from setting up offensively throughout the entire fight save for a few moments when Tyson was able to penetrate through. Holyfield was the matador, he used great lateral movement to keep Tyson from landing and he smothered and held and did whatever he could to negate Tyson's punches. He couldn't fight him the way he fought Bowe, he would have been knocked out. He fought him differently, he outmaneuvered him. Tua doesn't fight like that, in order for him to win he needs to be offensive minded. Tyson moves his head a lot better, has faster hands, better power and is the more accurate and skilled puncher. There is nothing that Tua does stylistically that will trouble a '96 Mike Tyson. And not to mention, Tua is NOT Holyfield. Tyson KO6.
It would be a war. I'll go with Tua late. Tyson in his prime would win because he was not one dimensional. Post prison, he was pretty one dimensional. Tua was one dimensional but his youth and freshness would serve him well as the fight wears on. Tyson is not gonna get him out of there early, and post prison Tyson was not prepared to go the distance.
This is one of the few times I agree with you. Mid 90s Tua was a combo of speed and power. He did throw a lot of punches over the course of 12 competitive rounds against Ike. By the late 90 and early 2000s, when he fought Lewis and Byrd, his weight had ballooned and his conditioning was obviously not as good as in 96-97.
I don't know only one case when Tua beat a special hard puncher like Tyson. Tua was always disappointing in his most important (by carrier) fights (Ibeabuchi,Rahman,Lewis,Byrd,Ustinov). Tua is very overrated here considering he never was heavyweight world champion by a big organization because he wasn't good enough.
You lost me when you said Bruno's chin was solid. Even his handler Mickey Duff admitted after the Lewis fight, when asked what happened, "Frank absolutely has no chin"
Solid breakdown, as always. Probably the best reply on this thread. People fall in love with power punchers but they forget that Mike Tyson was a tactical threat who had more weapons than a left hook and solid beard. And how many times did Tua fall short against guys that Tyson would steamroll...even the post prison '96 version? Going further, Tyson never fought a poor version of himself while Tua never fought a better version of himself either. Tyson can take power shots if he needed to. Tua seems to stop and think about going forward when tagged and hurt. People bring up Ike Ibeabuchi but Ike was a 15-0 novice when he met Tua. We haven't seen much of Ike but can we honestly say he was better than a past prime version of Tyson? I don't know what else to say...
Tyson couldn`t have taken the shots Fury took off Wilder and Tua hit as hard as DW. Fury and Wilder based on what I just saw would easily beaten Mike and Tua from `96.
What the **** are you on about? Mike Tyson couldn't take Wilder's punches but Tyson Fury could? How in the flying **** would you know? Dude, you are one weird fellow!
Did you see that Shavers moment v Wilder, that proved Fury would have come back from that upercut that Douglas knocked Mike out with and forget about Holyfield stopping Fury.
His chin was solid, his instincts cost him. After the initial shock, he took a shellacking off of Tyson in 89, but did not go down. Bonecrusher had his limitations but his right hand was powerful and yet Bruno took a number totally clean before eventually cracking. Jumbo Cummings smashed him with a right and he was out of it, but out of it on his feet, his chin kept him up. Bruno just did not know what to do when stunned. As I mentioned it took the late George Francis to programme in a holding app, which eventually was good enough to get him a win over McCall and the alphabet title he always wanted.
Douglas beat Tyson down over 10 rounds! A total domination. Fury was frustrating Wilder the entire fight, who was winging single shots and rarely landed. 2 completely...COMPLETELY different scenarios! Not sure why you're making the comparison because it's a really bad one. Extremely bad post on your part.