Tua vs Tysons Opposition

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How would he fare?

    He has to face them in the same order as Tyson around the same timeframe

    How would he do against
    Berbick
    Smith
    Tucker
    Biggs
    Holmes
    Tubbs
    Spinks
    Bruno
    Williams
    Douglas
    Ruddock
    Holyfield
    Botha
    Golota
    Lewis (at the age Tyson was)

    And any others you may want to add
     
  2. heavy_hands

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    Berbick: tua by ko in 2
    Smith: tua by ko in 5
    Tucker: tua by late tko or decision (because he would be the aggressor)
    Biggs: tua by ko in 7(when he hits this chicken cleanly)
    Holmes: funny because you did not put holmes 88..:lol:, holmes88 vs tua , david by tko or decision, holmes would take a beating in the late rounds.
    Tubbs: tua by ko in 6 rounds, he would have problems with the footwork of tubbs.(tua is lucky because this one is not the "peak" tubbs of the fantasy match with foreman):rofl
    Spinks: (tua vs moorer 2)
    Bruno:tua by ko in 2
    Williams: tua by ko
    Douglas: tua by ko
    Ruddock:tua by ko
    Holyfield: holyfield 96 by md
    Botha: tua by ko
    Golota:tua by ko
    Lewis (at the age Tyson was): lewis by decision and tua would look much better than tyson did at this age
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pull Tuas **** out of your mouth

    A prime Tua got schooled by LL but an old Tua is lasting the distance with Lewis? i dont think so.

    Tucker did well to dance to a decision against a Prime Lennox AND a Prime Mike Tyson but David Tua is koing him? :lol:
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    :patsch

    You're really overrating Tua here.. Holmes would take Tua to school. the Douglas that beat Tyson would also school Tua. Spinks also would probably outbox tua. A few more would probably have a good shot at beating Tua. Tua really wasn't that good.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Tua would've lost to Holmes, Williams, Douglas, Tubbs, Tucker, Holyfield and ofcourse Lennox Lewis which he did.

    Bonecrusher Smith/Tua could go either way. Ruddock/Tua could go either way.

    Tua might've beaten Michael Spinks. Probably beats Frank Bruno.
     
  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Actually... I'd probably favor a prime Ruddock over Tua as well. Tua fanboys are delusional.
     
  7. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    :lol: like i said you are not older than 17, you can´t take opinions
    prime tua got schooled by PRIME LEWIS, so a past prime tua would last the distance against A PAST PRIME LEWIS.tua had the stamina and the chin that tyson never had, he would last the distance and lewis should be careful

    and?????? tyson could not ko james smith but ruddock did...:hi:
     
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Tua was strong but he wasn't busy enough or quick enough to close the distance against guys with even decent boxing skills.

    In other words he was a Homeless Man`s Joe Frazier.:think
     
  9. heavy_hands

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    funny because the tysonfans are saying "holmes" but they ignore the year 1988 hahaha holmes was a complete shot, tua would give a beating to this fat,static version of holmes, and douglas is overrated basing on a single night against tyson, tua by ko, holyfield destroyed douglas early, i don´t buy the history "tokyo douglas" he was always the same bum, simply tyson was horrible that night
     
  10. heavy_hands

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    :rofl
     
  11. heavy_hands

    heavy_hands Guest

    :-( :lol:
     
  12. janitor

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    Badly.

    The schedule alone would be too much for him.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Can't see any of those guys knocking out David as his chin was more than proven over the years... But I can see a few of those men winning decisions. Tucker, Berbick, a well trained Douglas and of course Holyfield come to mind.
     
  14. Absolutely!

    Absolutely! Fabulous, darling! Full Member

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    You didn't need to be a particularly good boxer to beat Tua, but you had to be prepared to be on your guard the whole fight, because if ever the maxim "one punch is all it takes" applied to anyone, it applied to Tua.

    Thing with Tua though was that he was very good against a certain type of opponent, but absolutely atrocious against another. Close with him and you were a dead man. Box him from range, however, and your chances rapidly improved. A lot of Tyson's taller opponents were decent out fighters, pretty good at boxing at range against a shorter opponent. Their problem of course was Tyson himself, who was incredibly good at closing distance, and whose herky jerky head movement made it difficult for them to keep a tab on him. Tua rarely provided that kind of problem. Apart from the odd leaping hook (which he was actually incredibly good at) he was mostly a flat footed fighter, who to some degree relied on your compliance to engage with him on his own turf.

    Given his stylistic limitations, I can see many of Tyson's opponents doing well for large stretches of the fight, then catching a sleeper late in the rounds. I can also see others successfully neutralising Tua or tying him up, but ultimately taking too much damage to win a decision. And I can see a few of them totally shutting him down with either superior boxing or exceptional workrate and toughness: Holmes, Douglas, and Lewis in the first bracket, Evander in the second.

    I might even pick Lewis to TKO Tua if they fought at Tyson's age. He really had become a walking punchbag at that point.
     
  15. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Most people know that. Not that many people think as highly of Tua as you do. Even that version of Holmes had too much skill and experience for David Tua.

    Tua could follow him around eat jabs and go the distance. Larry would probably take a few rounds off due to old age..winning maybe an 8-4 decision.