Tua would have bombed Old Foreman out

Tua could however please go KTFO Wilder just so we can start a thread on when or how long was Wilder's prime.

 

Tuas Problem was not that great at Bobbing and weaving and he just had a left hook and if your around his size you must have a great body attack He did not have that

 

David Tua might have been a stylistic problem for an aged Foreman and certainly had the chin to take his best. I won't make any clad iron claims either way, but I could see it being a tough fight.

 

Lennox Lewis made Tua look like a one-dimensional midget. Old Foreman would have no problem bombing Tua out.

 

I find that experience often does well against something that doesn't overwhelm them. Tue had power and workrate (in his prime) but was slow of foot and short of reach. He had determination and resillience, as shown in his fight with Ibeabuchi, but he could also be cowed, as seen in his fight with Lewis, where he failed to let it all hang out.

I think the best old Foreman was savvy enough to see this through. I see him doing well enough back and forth, utililizing his jab, chin and determination to buy himself time and land some uppercut that stuns Tua. After that, the fight is manageable for him.

The alternate scenario is that Tua cracks that ole' chin or avoids (imagine that, Tua avoiding something) being decapitated for long enough so his workrate can make George look like the old man he is.

Holyfield couldn't, though. And Bert Cooper, though notoriously off and on, was made short work of by George. He has some superficial similarities to Tua, like physical dimensions, porous defense and boxing that revolves around chin and a punch. George's (illegal) looping bodyshots and thunderous (legal) uppercuts to the midriff had no trouble finding Cooper, and tough as Tua was, there are limits to any human body.

George by UD. Yes, you read that right.

 

Forgive my igorance, but I have not heard that Foreman's looping punches were illegal. They were & always, & because of where they landed?

 

The looping right hook to the kidney was one of Foreman's best weapons during his comeback. As far as I know he was never called on it, and he threw it in a way that it could hardly land anywhere else but on the back of the opponent. He hit the hips too.

I personally think this is okay -- most great fighters have their favorite fouls. Holyfields butting, Ali's holding behind the neck, Tyson's elbows, Duran's thumbing, Hopkins everything. Figuring out what the referee will tolerate/see and how to get away with stuff is almost a mandatory skill in elite boxing.

 

Good post and the Hopkins part was funny as hell . Didn't Tyson cite Holyfield's head butting as his rationale for biting his ear . Look at Rahman's head when he fought Evander.

RD3 Foreman VS Qawi
Berstein : "I don't know why Qawi is holding the back of his head"

Al , did you not see Qawi's left kidney CHANGE ADDRESSES IN RECORD FASHION TO HIS BRAIN . Good god almighty ,shouldn't the ref have treated that like a nut shot and gave Qawi's kidney time to move the furniture of it's previous location to it's new location.

 

I don't think so somehow! Foreman was a beast and Tua would have traded with him at his peril. Foreman by KO.

 

It's amazing to me the referee didn't see those, nor those against Cooper and the others. Some fighters seem to get favours sometimes, I guess.

 

keep dreamin

 

In the end, Foreman beat the ever loving **** out of Qawi. The punishment was more and more one way action as it progressed. The most over rated performance of the last 40 years.

 

Though you might mean kidney punches, thank you Shake.

Though i do not think this cheating is OK, & the degree to which a guy won using them...especially more than their opponent-should be counted against their legacy. Ali did most of his holding & head pulling in the '70's when he slowed down. Some things are matters of degrees & not so serious-occ. tying up, or Foreman's shoving is not so serious...But winning with constant illegal moves, or those that might be semi- devastating game changers, like head butts or kidney punches, is not a decent measure of fighting talent or of a fair fight.

And I am a Foreman fan.

 

Just watched it a couple months ago. A simple beatdown by a bigger, stronger man over a smaller, weaker man. An emphatic, almost predetermined beatdown. Like watching the sun rise or the rain fall.