Tunney does a deep dive on Corbett's genius

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    “The two men who helped me most,” Tunney told me a few weeks ago, “were Jim Corbett and William Muldoon. It was Mr. Muldoon who gave me early encouragement when I needed it badly. He was also the one who gave me sound advice on physical conditioning and training."

    “What boxers need today,” Tunney said, “is variety of attack. Jack Dempsey didn’t need this so much with his devastating left hook. He could knock your head off with this one punch. And don’t forget that Jack was extremely fast. I had no such punch. So I needed variety, which Corbett gave me. At least Jim gave me the general idea. For Corbett had more variety than any one I’ve ever known."

    “After talking and working with Corbett I went to work on several types of punches. I mean by that the body uppercut, which few boxers had ever used. Most uppercuts are headed for the chin. There were several other punches I worked on, day after day. I might even say year after year. I made uene Tunney a close study oi the human body to find the most vulnerable parts. Especially the nerve centers. I had discovered that a punch delivered to some spots would have no effect—where the same blow a few inches away could cause trouble. Fitzsimmons applied this knowledge in his famous solar-plexus punch that left Corbett paralyzed for a minute or more. Six inches to the right or left, this punch would have had no such effect. "If Jim Corbett to whom I went for ring advice."

    "In my opinion there has only been one Corbett when it comes to the science of boxing. I boxed with Corbett when he was past 60. He would feint with his left hand—and then hit you with the left. Or he would feint with the left —and nail you with a right. There was no way to tell just what he was going to do. He could mix up more punches than any one I ever saw. Corbett not only had amazing hand and foot speed, but even more im portant he had a smart brain. Even at that age, Jim could really daz zle you. He could still keep you be wildered. So I can imagine what he must have been when he was 25 or 30 years younger. I can only say that Jim was always kind to me, always interested in helping.”

    "Judging a fight from the view point of blows that hit certain parts of the anatomy is something more than you can ask a referee or any judge to consider. And yet it is a vital factor. I’ve heard fight crowds cheer loudly at some solid thump on an opponent’s shoulder. This means nothing at all. It is just wasted effort, no matter how effective it may look to the crowd. There are only certain parts of the human body that give way to punishment. These are parts that few boxers today even know about. It was Corbett’s advice that led me to study these vulnerable spots. At least Jim proved to me beyond any doubt that boxing was more of a science than mere brute strength. A scientific boxer can make a crude fighter look awkward although the latter might be twice as strong. “I’ve found that few of these terrific punchers can hit a moving tar get who knows how to keep out of the way. You may recall how many punches Max Baer landed on Jim Braddock, who was no section of lightning. I don’t believe Max landed even one solid blow in 15 rounds. But Max couldn’t miss big Camera. Boxing is one of the finest and one of the most scientific sports in the world. It would be a great help to the game if a few of the modem generation coining along were only willing to work along these lines. Which so few of them are.”

    The Tri-county news (Grand Rapids, Ohio), June 28, 1945
     
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  2. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rare write up of Tunney drinking the correct Martini.
     
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  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    He and Corbett prolly had some Monster together so Gene locked in for this article
     
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  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    That’s what it reads like to me “Sensei’s ancient technique” Tunney is trying to embellish or bloat how he learnt to punch to the body he “scholarly studied anatomy” and met with Grand Master Corbett… eh too romantic I bet the first guys a long time before Corbett and Tunney just hit each other to the body trying to figure out where hurt most lol.
     
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    When you watch Corbett with the speed corrected, everything suddenly comes together.

    He is just a mass of feints.

    He has two hands, and two feet, and you can imagine his opponent trying to guess what any of his four limbs were going to do.

    Corbett was very beatable against the best of his era, but even when he lost, they usually got clowned.
     
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  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Tunney was such a blowhard :lol:
     
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  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Another article of Gene talking about Corbett:


    Tunney Recalls Lessons Learnt From A Master
    JIM CORBETT'S. BOOK
    REVIVES
    THE PAST
    "For me, this is less like review
    ing a. book than a revival of me
    mories," Tunrey wrote when he
    reviewed "The Roar of the Crowd."
    He added: "It is like a review of
    lessons learnt long ago." -
    And those profitably-learnt lessons of
    long ago were obviously taught by a
    man Tunney was proud to call a friend.
    In his review Tunney wrote:
    "I knew Jim Corbett well. He taught me
    much when I was a young boxer beginning
    a career, and illustrated the lessons with
    examples of his own great battles in the
    ring. The story of his life is necessarily
    woven around .those legendary contests.
    "'The Roar of the Crowd' was published
    first in 1925, and it is good to see it printed
    again, a brightly told tale of the most bril
    liant career in boxing history.
    '"Boxihg, that is, not mere fighting. There
    is a naivete in Corbett's narration when he
    revels respectfiully in his acquaintance with
    the sporting character; of the day, the mil
    lionaire horse-race men, the big-time poli
    ticians, the actors, the gambling-house op
    erators, but thire is nothing naive il, his
    recital of the strategies of the ring.
    "For example he tells how,;in his cham
    pionship match with John L. Sullivan, he
    was afraid of what might happen if, when
    dazed or tired, he were cornered by .the
    mighty John L
    ·Gene Tunney: . i.n pen:ive mood. Gene Tunney in pensive mood. Help
    ·Gene Tunney: . i.n pen:ive mood.
    Gene Tunney in pensive mood.
    Gene Tunney, the American
    ex-marine who took the heavy
    weight title on a night of blind
    ing rain in Philadelphia and later
    shocked the cognoscenti of the
    prize-ring by showing his talents
    for literature, has reviewed on
    old book-a popular one in its
    day-by his one-time friend,
    James J. Corbett. What Tunney
    learnt from Corbett he relates in
    this orticle.
    '"In the early rounds. when he was fresh.
    he deliberately allowed Sullivan to corner
    him and noted his pattern of action, how
    Sullivan attacked a cornered opponent.
    "Corbett backed into the corners repeat
    edly, with the champion in hot pursuit. -and
    worked out tactics for an emergency.
    "In his talks with me. Corbatt empha
    sised the importance of footvibrk. He would
    move around to illustrate, or take a pencil
    and paper and diagram the steps in a pugil
    istic manoeuvre.
    "He was like a ballet director plotting the
    steps for. Coppelia or Les Sylphides.
    "He told me that he had made it a prac
    tice to 'shadow dance,' as he called it, for
    one hour every day with no time out for
    rest. It was not for nothing that they called
    him the Dancing Master.
    "I found the lessons useful when 1 got
    into the ring with lack Dempsey.
    "In his 62-round fight with Pater Jack
    son, Corbett had to solve the problem of a
    dangerous one-two punch. InirThe Roar of
    the Crowd' he.ells how he met it. -
    "The great Negro pugilist would throw
    a left to the head, followed immediately by
    a savage right to the jaw or body.
    The Right A Killer
    "Corbett found that the left had little
    power, the right was the killer. So be ig
    nored the left, or, rather, he used it as a
    signal for a right counter of his own.
    'Thus he would beat Jackson to the right
    hand punch, and the fast, powerful Negro
    was deprived of his best weapon.
    "That page reads 4ike a lecsson Corbett
    used to give me, as we would sit and talk.
    "In my, bout with Tom Gibbons, I had
    to solve a problem of deception. Gibbons
    was expert at feinting, talmost a lost art
    nowadays. .
    "He would feint with his left, once, twice,
    a third time-you never knew how many
    times-but inched closer each time until his
    opponent pawed out with a left as a defen
    sive gesture.
    "It was then that Gibbons slipped in with
    a paralysing left upper-cdit to the liver (the
    most painful blow in boxing) or left hook
    to the jaw.
    "I noted that, when. he feinted just be
    fore throwing the left, he, would advance
    his left foot. It was like a signal for the real
    thing
    "Thiroughout the fight I watched his left
    foot, and when it came forward with the
    feint, I would drive a one-two (straight
    left followed instantly by a straight right)
    to the jaw, then move out of range after
    beating him to the punch.
    Gontlenan Jim, the man who in 1892 Hwon the head wieight championship from John L. Sullihan and became the first of the wiorld champions under Queensberry rules. Help
    Gontlenan Jim, the man who
    in 1892 Hwon the head wieight
    championship from John L.
    Sullihan and became the first
    of the wiorld champions under
    Queensberry rules.
    "It was interesting to read his
    account of how he lost his first
    bout with James J. Jeffries.
    "I remember how he used to
    tell me about it as a comedy. It
    was an irony of vanity. Cor
    bett was the great exponent of
    mentality in boxing.
    "'His book abounds in ex
    amples of quick wit, especially
    the exploitation of the tem
    peramental weakness of an op
    ponent. But he fell a victim to
    his own temperamental weak
    ness. He had the vanity,of the -
    theatre.
    "Meeting Jeffries, he had vic
    tory inr his grasp. For 23
    rounds he out-boxed the pow
    erful champion, and gave him
    a severe beating.
    "In the 23rd round Jeffries
    backed him to the ropes. This
    had happened repeatelly, with
    Corbett slipping away easily
    and hitting Jeffries virtually at
    will.
    "But this time his attention
    failed. His mind was away on
    something else and he -never
    saw the knock-out left that
    stretched him out for the
    count. He was thinking of the
    banner he would have in front
    of the theatre in huge letters:
    'James J. Corbett, again the
    heavyvbeight champion of the
    world.' '
    "Even if he did not win the
    championship hack, Corbett
    was one of the most intelligent
    (if not the most intelligent)
    and courageous great men of
    ring history."

    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/49621490
     
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  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm sure Jim greatly approved of Gene's choices of opponents.
     
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