Tunney V Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017.


Could Tunney beat Ali

Poll closed Jul 31, 2017.

  1. Ali pts

    15 vote(s)
    78.9%

  2. Ali stoppage

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%

  3. Tunney pts

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%

  4. Tunney stoppage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    They do fight them though...pretty shallow argument.
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  2. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    So you honestly think the Ali who fought Young is better than the Williams version.
    If you do then i would like to see exactly how many people agree with you.
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  3. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How about comparing the literally and figuratively shot Williams with the on top of his game Young? The Williams that Ali looked so good against was physically compromised in several ways as a result of being shot by a cop.
     
    Hookandjab, Jul 10, 2017
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  4. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Nice duck there.....
    Who do you rate as the better version of Ali...'67 or '76

    Simple question?
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  5. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great way to stifle discussion - question the motive of people who disagree with the narrative.
     
    Hookandjab, Jul 10, 2017
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  6. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not shallow at all, but the worn out race card is. Time for that nonsense to stop.
     
    Hookandjab, Jul 10, 2017
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    If the definition of overrated is being given the most credit for the least actual accomplishment, then Heavyweight Gene Tunney is your poster boy.
     
    Seamus, Jul 10, 2017
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  8. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Another convenient duck......

    '67 or '76 ?
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  9. FrankinDallas

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    Sorry to get in between you two girls, but here's my opinion.

    Ali puts a bigger hurt, in less time, than Jack Johnson put on Jim Jeffries. Cuts him up badly,
    makes Tunney pay for pre-fight racist comments, then KO's him in the 5th.
     
    FrankinDallas, Jul 10, 2017
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  10. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Spot on Seamus.
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  11. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not that simple, but I'd pick the 76 version. I would, however, pick '71 over any other.
     
    Hookandjab, Jul 10, 2017
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  12. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Who is claiming a race card?
    I simply asked who was the best prime 210lb black heavyweight that Tunney beat that justifies picking him over '67 Ali
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  13. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Then why did you decide to use the '76 version as opposed to the '71 in your original post?
    Surely the prime for prime scenario explained that much?
     
    BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017
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  14. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Phenomenal. You make a standard for ability based on beating a "black" heavyweight, but that is not resorting to the race card. And criticising Ali, according to you, implies a "motive" other than an honest opinion. I'll take the red pill and not the blue.
     
    Hookandjab, Jul 10, 2017
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  15. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because of the similarity of the styles of Young and Tunney, obviously.
     
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