Tunney V Ali

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by BlackCloud, Jul 10, 2017.


Could Tunney beat Ali

Poll closed Jul 31, 2017.

  1. Ali pts

    15 vote(s)
    78.9%

  2. Ali stoppage

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%

  3. Tunney pts

    3 vote(s)
    15.8%

  4. Tunney stoppage

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Lol so not beating a black guy means you are unqualified to do so?

    You are talking like it's a different species.

    If Tunney beat W Klitschko, Marciano, and Jeffries, we still wouldn't know if he could beat Elmer Rush?
     
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  2. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry to have to disagree with your misogynist and race-obsessesed thinking, but no way. Think 188 lb. Doug Jones. Think Jimmy Young giving Ali a thorough boxing lesson. Most of all, think.
     
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  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Ok, so we agree that Tunney never got in the ring with anyone approaching Ali's combined size and skin colour....for whatever reason.
    You then claim that Young & Tunney fought similar styles, yet you pick a version of Ali, that, by your own ranking is 6yrs past his prime of '71.

    Bizzarre.
     
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  4. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Not at all.
    People are looking for angles that i have not once claimed, but surely we look for comparisons in any era to form an opinion?
     
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  5. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Against Jones, Ali was 21. Against Young he was 34.
    Both of these fights are way, way removed from his prime, which you claim to be 1971.

    Think.
     
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  6. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, dude, I used the Young fight only to compare styles. What the powder punching Young did to Ali then, a far better Tunney would have done to a younger Ali. Hey, wake up. In my opinion Tunney was better. That doesn't mean anything other that I believe that Tunney was better than Ali. Period. I believe that Louis, Vitali, Vlad, Marciano, Dempsey, Tyson, etc., We're also better. This must be blasphemy to your brainwashed mind.
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    If I misinterpreted, my apologies, but you keep asking for examples of black guys Tunney defeated, as if it is a qualifier to beat Ali.


    The honest answer is that Tunney has a blemish on his record for racism, but he beat the baddest heavyweight there was at his time. Which is more indicative of his chances to beat Ali, then beating Elmer Rush would.
     
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  8. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Rez, would like your prediction for the fight please, and what year would you say Ali was prime?
     
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  9. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    No apologies required my friend
     
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  10. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Why brainwashed, justify that claim please?
    Surely if i, or anyone else for that matter is of the opinion that prime for prime Ali would beat Tunney, then we are on safer ground than the other way round, seeing that Ali is a consensus top 1 or 2 in the division.

    Of course, we could all be wrong and you could be right but i guess the poll will indicate which of us is closer to the mark eh!
     
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  11. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Polls can be deceiving. Just ask Hillary. :)
     
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  12. Mr.DagoWop

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    Ali by boring decision. Styles.

    Gene doesn't apply enough pressure to win rds against Ali.
     
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  13. reznick

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    I pick nobody over Ali at his best.
    I think he was at his best around 65-66.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    I did think. And I think Ali Boliviantes Tunney, who was an acknowledged racist. Do some research while you think about it.
     
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  15. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    BTW...mis
    BTW misogynist refers to a contempt of women. I never said Tunney was a woman.
     
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