Tunney v Frazier

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  1. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    Rasta Borat strikes again! Obviously we are far too simple post this list you reference!
     
  2. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one should be arguing that Dempsey was rated over Ali and Frazier in 1971. Ali was rated as a fringe ATG at that time.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Rasputin's original argument was that Nat Fleischer rated Dempsey at number one.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes you did! Here is your statement.
    "Nate Fleischer had him as the best heavyweight ever, ahead of Jeffries, Louis, Johnson, Sullivan, Marciano, Corbett and Clay was outside the top 10)."

    Why not take a break Raskolnikov ? This is clearly too much for you.
     
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  5. mcvey

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    As the Ring ratings clearly show Fleischer never at any time rated Dempsey as his number one heavyweight ,which is what your original statement claimed. There's no justification for spending more time on this with you,or indeed on you.
     
  6. Nighttrain

    Nighttrain 'BOUT IT 'BOUT IT Full Member

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    How the hell do you even decipher what he is talking about?
     
  7. mcvey

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    It is for me perhaps not so much difficulties as for others of some that do not have the sense of knowledge of the box that is in my possession.What Me Worry
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know what you call yourself, but I know what we call you .lol!
     
  9. yancey

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    Frazier hunts down Tunney in this one. Frazier was built for the slicksters, especially his size or smaller.

    No need for the cards. It goes perhaps 10 rounds.
     
  10. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier lost two out of three against a slickster and Tunney was the slickest slickster.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Bit of difference between the greatest Heavyweight ever and a light heavyweight/Cruiser. Just a little.
     
  12. Nighttrain

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    Thank you! Joe never lost to anyone smaller.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    The best one (Marciano) had a similar body to Tunney? Frazier said Marciano was superior? Not sure i follow.

    Let's not even begin to pretend Ali and Tunney were the same size.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Frazier lost 2 out of 3 against the GOAT, a man who was significantly bigger than Tunney.The only real puncher Tunney faced was past his prime and he dropped him for 14 seconds.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Frazier never ranked Marciano as the number one heavyweight,he ranked Louis & Johnson at the top. Ali recorded his opinions for his autobiography when he and Joe drove to Frazier's Gym.
    Ali 18 years old scaled 186lbs for his first pro fight, Tunney only weighed over 190lbs just once, in his last fight against Heeney. Tunney and Frazier's physiques were totally different Tunney had spindly legs and a lithe torso whereas Frazier had massive thighs,and a thick body
    God knows where you get these ideas from?
     
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