Turkey Thompson (5' 8") draws w Abe Simon (6'4") 70 lb difference

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  1. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i941-10-06 : Turkey Thompson 186½ lbs drew with Abe Simon 256 lbs by PTS in round 10 of 10
    • Location: Gilmore Field, Los Angeles, California, USA
    • Referee: Benny Whitman
    Turkey Thompson
    height 5′ 8½″ / 174cm
    reach 73″ / 185cm

    Abe Simon
    height 6′ 4″ / 193cm
    reach 82″ / 208cm
     
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  2. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    What an game man Simon was, a true SHW of his time.

    Did he fight the other two ton SHW?
     
  3. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simon hung in with Louis in their first fight (20 rd scheduled fight)

    1941-03-21 : Joe Louis 202 lbs beat Abe Simon 254½ lbs by TKO at 1:20 in round 13 of 20
    Joe Louis Stops Abe Simon in Thirteenth Round
    Associated Press, March 22, 1941

    The impossible didn't quite happen tonight but it came close enough to throw a substantial scare into Joe Louis and his fistic family before the Bomber was able to do his work.

    With just a whale-sized heart and a dazzling left hand, the New York giant, Abe Simon—the big target who wasn't supposed to have one chance in a million of lasting more than three rounds—gave Louis a "helluva" fight of it for 12 full heats before running afoul of the Brown Bomber's big guns in the thirteenth.

    With the greatest indoor crowd in Detroit's fistic history jamming the Olympia and gasping in amazement at Simon's sensational showing, Abe gave just about as good as he received until the thirteenth. Then, floored twice by heavy-duty right hand shells, he got up and staggered helplessly into the ropes near his own corner. There, Referee Sam Hennessey rushed in and halted the bout with Louis a tired technical knockout winner at 1 minute, 20 seconds of the thirteenth.

    A total of 18,908 fans bulged this big arena at the seams and hung from the rafters to see the hometown champion, and Promoter Mike Jacobs said some 3,000 who couldn't even crowd into the packed standing room sections, were turned away. The gross gate was $56,605.10.

    But, although he locked his world heavyweight championship in the safe successfully for the fifteenth time, the great Louis was slightly less than a ball of fire. After it was over, the "experts" agreed he was mighty lucky not to have had to face the speed and left hand of a Billy Conn tonight.

    He finished up with a "mouse" under his left eye and the optic half closed and he left the definite impression behind that he is no longer at his peak, although at 202 pounds tonight his handlers insisted he was "in the pink."

    Altogether, Louis floored Abe four times during the 13 rounds this scheduled 20-rounder lasted. In the first round—in fact the first punch he threw—Joe whistled a right off Abe's "wiskers" that dropped him near a neutral corner. He was up without a count, however. In the third, another of the same sat Abe down in another corner, and be stayed grinning on the seat of his pants until the referee reached nine.

    Then, although Abe was hurt three times afterward, he didn't go down until the thirteenth. For several rounds before that Joe had been stalking the mountainous Manhattanite, obviously holding his fire until he had an open shot.

    He got it in the thirteenth. A smashing right dropped Abe near his own corner for nine. He got up as Joe rushed in sensing the kill. Three more rights dropped Abe in almost the identical spot, and again he took nine before climbing to his feet. Joe raced across the ring once more, but this time "our Abe," as Manager Jimmy Johnston calls his gladiator, was helpless and through. He staggered blindly into the ropes and it was all over.

     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Turkey Thompson is one of the few top 150-200 heavyweights I have not seen on film. Supposedly he flew across the ring, and could be a wild swinging type. His chin was a little suspect.

    If he's on film, someone send me a PM or link please.
     
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  5. JackSilver

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    Wtf? Turkey Thompson? was he related to Chicken George?
     
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  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Simon was huge. Look at Simon's hands compared to Jack Johnson's.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IiRC8bCdnAA/UBD37anIJpI/AAAAAAAAEzE/CBcpDhnwIgQ/s1600/JackAbeSimon.jpg
     
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  7. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Johnson just looks like he has tiny hands (but a big head) Even Al Capone on the right looks like he has bigger hands than Johnson.
     
  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The top of Jack Johnson's skull definitely seemed to get way bigger as he got older. You can see profiles of Johnson when he's a young man and his skull seems round and normal. When he's old, it looks like a mushroom. Very weird.

    Speaking of Abe Simon and his hands, and Joe Louis opponents, here are three of Joe Louis' opponents playing the officers of Local 374 in "On The Waterfront" sitting next to each other in court.

    Tami Mauriello (Recording Secretary), "Two Ton" Tony Galento and Abe Simon (sitting next to Johnny Friendly - played by Lee J. Cobb, who was supposed to play Mickey in the first Rocky movie but refused to audition for a role in a low budget movie, so Burgess Meredith replaced him).

    Simon looks enormous next to Lee J. Cobb.

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  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Al Capone. (LOL)
     
  10. VVMM

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    What does it mean "SHW" ? Small heawyweight ?
     
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  11. FrankinDallas

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    Simon had to be the ugliest Mo fo in boxing history.
     
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  12. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I don't know, "Porky" Dan Flynn gives him a run for his money.
     
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