turning pro

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    im seriously thinking about turning pro asap

    im 15 and im actually disillusioned with the amatuers as i always seem to be robbed and im not saying it i mean it ive had fights where the ref came up to me and told me i had won also i dont want to sound silly but i seriously thinking about it. i have a big ammatuer fight coming up but after that im going to start training 3 min rounds

    im just wanting to see from actual pros if it is worth it and whats the minimum age to turn pro, purses to start with, what promoters look for young boxers in britain, trainers who would start training me at my age now

    any help appreciated

    and lads come on no slags
     
  2. TheRock49

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    Whats your amateur record?
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    1-4 with my 1 win by rsc

    i have boxed for about a year and can beat most people in my gym whos boxed for years but i only started fighting last year and i only ever wasnt robbed in my first fight which i lost. i have been told i have a pro style of countering with fast hard shots from awkward angles and dodging lots of shots and taking the rest on gloves.
     
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    TheRock49 Active Member Full Member

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    Im 19 years old with an amateur record fo 4-1, and I know I could'nt compete on the pro level. I spar a couple pros and they could whoop me if they wanted to. I would give it a few years and definetly more fights before you consider moving up and facing harder opponents. Its not as easy as one may think.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i know its a big desicion but i feel i have the talent and im not being cocky or anything and i think if i stated training as a pro know it would suit me better than training as an amatuer and i would learn more and i know i would have to wait about 3 years before i can get a license anyway

    obviously i dont want to keep losing bad desicions and i have been told i have a pro style
     
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    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    very very very foolish to turn pro. 15 or not it is still foolish. once you have a pro rec thats it your amateur career is over. if you lose in the pro's, your stuck in palookaville....in the amateurs it doesnt matter
    also there is no such thing as a pro style...
    least in the ams you can lose and not thign about how your gonna pay the bills...but at only 15 i doubt you really know what i mean. if your losing then your doing something wrong robbery or not you are still losing. also remember that your coach cant be in with you in the pro's becuase he can only train amatuers

    **** your record. it's expereince.


    a good example is jeff thomas, esb's very own 140 pound fighter. after a good solid amatuer career and an amatuer title he turns pro feelign he has this pro style and a good range of body work to boot.
    he goes pro has a good start then loses to mcallister....then another loss to hardcastle. not losing badly just not getting the W winning 4 rounds losing 6 may be a small margin but on the cards thats a clear loss.now becoming a short fixture fighter he had to get a job as a bouncer in blackpool. he is better than other fighters but becuase he gets a shock loss. the whole house of cards fall and the record isnt worhtwhile and work becomes sporadic...he retired (but bowing to return) with a record of 9 wins 6 losses and 1 draw.


    you may have read about boxers with little to no amatuer expereince like qawi, andrade or J.francis but they were fighters thru and thru.

    Qawi was a prison byrd who got into major bralws in his younger years...when he started training he was only doing in it for the money...but he was good at it.

    Andrade had somthign like 3-21 record but lost....he is exactly the same in the pro ranks..he is very hard to drop and very easy to outpoint. but becuase he knows that he is a dangerous fighter.

    Julius Francis was a football hooligan, a mobber a real tough guy. he did kung fu, taekwondo, kickboxing, boxing went back to kung fu then went back to boxing in the pro ranks with about 3 fights in the ams.

    if you are getting robbed then why turn pro? you will get robbed in the pro ranks aswell...and it will be a waste of time then.
     
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    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    you have 3 years to go as you said...make the best of it

    it's like some of my mates who just said "**** college" and got a job....now they need qualifications and are now paying for their modules now becuase the goverment only pay for you if you are in.
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    vantage-west you speak sense

    ill think it over im still going to train like a pro doing 3 min rounds but just keep amatuer contests but i dont want to get a losers mentality
     
  9. Aplin

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    15 is too young anyway, you are not gonna be able to fight anyone worth mentioning. Your best bet is to get down a pro gym and spend the next 3/4 years sparring pro's three times a week whilst continuing your amature training in my opinion
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i was wantin maybe to see a pros opinion of life in the pros aswell to help me decide

    aplin theres not alot of gyms near me exect lee mcallisters so i might have loook down there sometime he needs a good batterin
     
  11. Youngblood

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    Keep fightin and you'll be fighting 3 min rounds in ams very shortly. I already spar them and train for them and will be switching to them in the new year with the new AIBA rule changes. You aren't going to get better experience fighting 3 min rounds, then actually fighting 3 min rounds...and as pointed out, best to get it in amateur when ultimately it won't mean much if your goal is to go pro.
     
  12. Kolya

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    No. You want at least 20 fights and you want to have fought as a senior to see what it's like against fully grown men. Maybe you should just work and practice and try to learn from every match; win or lose, and get better. Winning and losing isn't everything in the amateurs.
     
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    Hell I've sparred three minute rounds for the last five years... I took up boxing 5 years ago...
     
  14. brown bomber

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    Mate the amateurs is all about developing the winning formuler.... 1-4 is not a bad start as long as you have taken something from the five fights. Vantage West gives me a bit more credit then I deserve as an am.... I was capable of giving any am in the country a good, close fight and being realistic may have just scraped a top ten english rating at my best. But I got schooled a few times too.... Its all about learning and developing and you can do that regardless of the result. DO NOT compare your achievements in the ams with the pros its a complete different ball game in terms of what happens in and out of the ring.

    I sparred with pro's from 13 and knew that I was getting better, everytime I someone got the better of me i'd think about how and why. I watched lots of videos of myself and made the changes that I felt nessasary to improve my style. Sometimes you'll get robbed, sometimes you'll get schooled, sometimes you blow out, sometimes you'll hit it right on the money and what a good consistant fighter will do is identify why they win, Boxing isn't about magic, prayers, religion or loosing because your having a **** day.... its about A, attack and B, defence.... the sooner you can identify the key parts of your physical makeup the more wins you will start picking up.

    Watch, learn and improve.

    Good luck.
     
  15. amy

    amy If you know what I mean Full Member

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    You can't legally turn professional at 15 anyway.