Turns out HBO backed out of a verbal agreement to show Wlad/Povetkin says Dan Raphael

HBO has a history of showing **** HW fights, how man of these **** fights involved a Klitschko? Less than 10%? Holyfield, Ruiz, Toney, Peter, Ibragimov. All these disgraceful **** fights ring a bell? These obese and drug addicted anti-heroes were HBO'S HW "stars" 2000-2010.

HBO destroyed the US HW division by showcasing 40 year old fatties instead of building young up'n comers. They tried with Arreola and he got destroyed by Vitali. Now they have nobody left. The average US top 20 HW is around 45 years old these days and has about an icecube in hell chance of ever winning a HW belt.

That's why HBO pulled the plug. They saw the error of their own ways and realized it will take 5-10 years for them to build a generation of competitive US heavyweights.

 

HBO is in decline. All they do is showing Golden Boy Promotion cards. Nothing interesting anyway. Take a look at this weekend card. It is a pretty mediocre card. Bradley takes a decision over Abregu. Who would want to see this?

HBO is doing a big favor of Dana White. That's for sure. HBO put mediocre cards. Public interest goes to MMA cards.

 

no what your saying is bull****. HBO should turn down **** fights like Mosley vs Mora its a crap fight.

If HBO tell Berto and Mosley the only way they get on HBO and earn HBO money is to fight eachother, that fight gets made pretty quickly. Surley you understand that?

 

Klitsckos need to wake up. Not only are they limiting there revenue in Germany by only having RTL bid for the fight, there also going to cut out HBO. You cannot expect Haye to accept 50-50 if the Klitsckos are capping two major revenue sources due to being poor business men.

If Haye turned round and said he wanted the fight in the UK to be on in BBC who pay half as much as Sky, what do you think the Klitsckos would say?

If a 250k deal was agreed, there should of been a contract. Otherwise stop moaning as its your own fault.

 

Do not worry, rob. Haye will accept Audley Harrison's offer. Harrison will sell that fight all over the world. Networks will make crazy bids only to broadcast short videos of the intros. Not even the whole fight. Only the mightiest networks will have to money to broadcast it. It is going to break all time record.

 

Nobody in Germany pays more than the 15 million EUR/5 fight deal RTL pays to K2. That's the biggest TV deal in German boxing history. There is no "bidding" as you claim. Who on earth would bid?

Poor business men? The deal the brothers have with RTL is borderline genius. RTL - the biggest private station - is helping them sell out 60,000 seat arenas with their 24/7 marketing machine and the brothers collect the entire gate.

Can you imagine how insignificant $250k from HBO are in the grand scheme of things?

 

David Haye

"Audley's won the vacant title against Michael Sprott, a guy who had previously knocked him spark out in three rounds,"

"He needs to focus on his own career and start getting his own house in order first. Perhaps he should offer rematches to all the guys that have beaten him first and set the record straight there. There will be a pretty long queue."

"I haven't talked to Audley's team, to be honest. I've read it in numerous newspapers but I don't take any notice of that. I looked on one of the boxing websites the other day and they even had a date for the fight. That made me laugh,"

"Audley's just trying to get some headlines. If, by some miracle, I ended up in the same ring as him, I think everybody with half a brain cell would know what the result would be. I would go out there and mince him."

Adam Booth

There are plenty of other options out there, David's not really interested in Audley Harrison. There is a lot of talk about Audley being a fight people want to see but I'm not convinced. Tomasz Adamek could sell a lot of tickets to Poles in London.

 

Because it's a ****ing business.

HBO showed Ortiz/Maidana and Wlad/Ibragimov. Which do you think is more likely to attract viewers to the next show? Which do you think turns fans away? Which do you think greatly contributes to the death of boxing in the mainstream?

Who cares if the Klitschko's are more dominant? Nobody wants to watch that. The fans rightfully want to see good fights for their hard earned money and the fact is, you don't get good fights from the Klitschko's. They're too good. HBO should show Haye and Adamek and build the division around them. When they do face overmatched opponents, at least they'll go in for the kill.

HBO's funds are limited. Showing abysmal fights like their recent ones will only hurt them and ultimately boxing. I am a big fan of Wlad but I care more about boxing than one fighter and that's why I back them not showing his fights. I'd rather see investment in exciting fighters or youth.

 

Mosley/Mora is an abysmal fight. I really don't want to see an ancient Mosley again and Mora has had some terrible fights. It's just awful. Why should HBO show it, other than it's "Mosley"? It's an undercard fight at best. If HBO showed it, they'd be throwing their money away.

 

Its the biggest deal in German History and still Haye earns more from the UK?????

there would be more than $250k bid for the fight. HBO paid $3million for Calzaghe vs Kessler. Your not going to get more than $1million from showtimes.

 

exactly. HBO told Mosley they would make a fight between him again Martinez or Berto and Goldenboy said no. HBO told them to **** off. Good on them.

 

Yes but for this tape delay of Wlad - Povetkin they wanted to pay 250k so I wouldn't even worry about it.

Yes, biggest deal in Germany history. You said the Klitschkos were bad businessmen by "not getting all bids from Germany". However, once you realize that there is no PPV and that there is nobody to bid more on a TV deal you will quickly agree that this deal is as good as it gets for Germany. Nobody ever earned more from boxing in Germany than Vitali and Wlad. For the foreseeable future nobody ever will.

As a benchmark, Value earned between 750k - 1.5m EUR for an average title defense at Sauerland/ARD. The brothers collect (according to Bild calculations) a total of up to 10 million EUR per fight, including RTL, international TV from 108 countries, gate money, sponsorship, merchandising etc.

Bad businessmen? I call it revenue maximization under the circumstances.

 

these germans should fight in the states.

 

Maximization is my exact point. This is what Hayes team wanted. If RTL pay the most the fight is on RTL. If HBO pay the most the fight is on HBO, if Sky pay the most the fight is on Sky. Klitsckos said no to this mate??

I have been critical of Haye and you applauded me for it. You need to realise the Klitsckos are not saints. The fight could of happened if they wanted it.

 

Soo jack what ever happened to " the klitschko's will never offer Haye 50/50! And that gag order you were sure haye was under