Turns out HBO backed out of a verbal agreement to show Wlad/Povetkin says Dan Raphael

It seems that you have not read the story about The Lying Shepherd.

Maybe Booth wants Adamek but Adamek wants KlitschKOs not the The Lying Shepherd Haye.

The bottom line is that Haye is not that good businessman as you proclaim. His business hystory shows the opposite. He lost alot of money because he signed Setanta network.

 

I wouldn't bother with that guy Ivo... just from the pic you can tell he's one of those young Englishman who wouldn't know anything about any other country except his own... okay, he may well be familiar with mechanism at the inner part of Haye's anus too... I'll give him that much.

 

Apparantly the contract Wlad wanted HBO to sign would have meant that HBO would have not only had to show the Povetkin fight, but also screen live footage of Vitali beating up a heavybag for half an hour (apparantly the heavybag has just been bumped up to number 15 in the WBC rankings...) and screen a special hour long special featuring their mum cooking Ukrainian delicacies.

Klitschko slave contracts ftl...

 

I didn't say that about 50/50. My stance has always remained the same. I said we should wait until we have both sides of the story, rather than just accept what K2 was saying.

And the gagging order was in place.

 

All you homos that want more excitement need to watch mma or kung fu movies. This is boxing where at the highest level there will always be fights with less than desirable action. We aren't casual fans yawning everytime a jab is thrown and two guys aren't punching each other in the face over and over again, we suppose to have a better understanding and appreciation for the sport and what the fighters are doing.

And HBO's decision is based soley on Wlad and Vitali's preferance to fight in Germany. If they were doing Vegas there probably wouldn't be a problem. If they were dropping them because their fights are onesided clinics...half their so called stars wouldn't have contracts.

For the record, Vitali/Arreola was much more exciting than Mayweather/Marquez.

 

you dont know **** about boxing at the highest level

pac vs jmm 1/2, james toney vs iran barkley, riddick bowe vs evander holyfield, duran vs leonard, mayweather vs corrales, barrera vs morales are all boxing at its highest level and none of those fights are boring.

quit making excuses for boring fights

sweet science doesn't mean defense.

 

Bulshitt you really need me to bring up the numerous post's where you claimed there was no 50/50 and where exactly is that gag order would boothe of not broke it when he claimed there was no 50/50 which later we found out to not be the thruth.

 

Any post saying that, would be me being flippant. If you want to quote them, go ahead. it'll just show how much you missed the point by.

I don't understand your second point. Why would the gagging order still be in place, if the negotiations aren't?

 

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Re: Haye interview: No Harrison fight, wants Klitschkos instead, will retire end of 2
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and they were offered 50/50, no options. what are they CLAIMING was offered and hence, is the reason for their silence/hiding?

They weren't offered 50/50 with no options. They were banned from talking to the media.



http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7166567#post7166567

He's not talking to the press because he's not allowed to. Now, ask yourself why Klitschko's camp would do that. They've not stopped talking so why are they stopping Haye? Are they using this to slander Haye, which is working? Who are the ones saying Haye/Harrison is happening? Who are the ones saying 50/50 was offered?

What you see, isn't always the truth.

I'm a huge Wlad fan but all these underhand tactics should be beneath him. Fair enough if he wants to goad Haye into a fight but he should be more honest to his fans.



http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7156873#post7156873

If Klitschko's camp had no intention of lying, why was Haye banned from talking to the press throughout negotiations?

They lied about the offer, and presumably other things, to put heat on Haye, which has worked. He's gone from being ready to fight the brothers in everyones eyes to a coward. Bravo to them, but it's a cheap promotional ploy, which ranks alongside Mayweather's attempt to tarnish Pacquiao.

Wait until we hear Haye, for ****s sake.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7152780#post7152780

I said I don't think Wlad is ducking him but I was proving that, if you choose to be pedantic, there is more evidence to suggest that Wlad is ducking Haye, than the other way around.

One man has bent over backwards to make the fight happen. The other has only recently been interested.

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http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7104738#post7104738

Maybe Haye will take it? That's the thing: He's not accepted or rejected yet and, honestly, none of us know whether the contract is fair or terrible, again. We don't know what's happening, so we can't judge. I doubt it's 50/50 with go options.

And, when he is STILL in negotiation with Haye, why has, in your own words, Wlad accepted a fight with Povetkin? They've only been ordered to negotiate, not fight. Why accept that, if he wants Haye, which is very much possible?




Originally Posted by calumbo

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were did you hear/read about the press ban??


I'm not sure. I think it's accepted though, mate.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7098645#post7098645

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Interestingly, Haye is not allowed to talk about negotiations yet Klitschko's manager is. That isn't fair for obvious reasons, which is why I don't trust these quotes saying a 50/50 split has been offered. Considering how poor the offer was before, I find it hard to believe the Klitschko's would make such an effort to get Haye into the ring.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7062615#post7062615

 

There never was a gag order you have never offered any proof instead just keep on repeating the same B.S and hoping it sticks.


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Klitschko-Povetkin wasn't a done deal until after the purse bids and technically still not a done deal unless it's scheduled to happen with 90 days after the bid.

Haye is also saying that he's STILL negotiating with team Klitschko for a fight "at some point in time"...so that would stand to reason that any press ban (however fictitious) would still be in place.
I agree with you and I'm sure it is still in place, however, when the fight between Povetkin and Klitschko was accepted, I imagine the restrictions were loosened a little bit. There's no point in Haye keeping quiet, when negotiations aren't completely under way, you know? Obviously as things move on, the restrictions won't be the same, just like for Pacquiao/Mayweather.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=7200485#post7200485

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Yeah, that makes sense. So there's a press ban when it suits your argument, and "restrictions" are "loosened a little bit" when he does talk? I don't get it. It seems like you just want it both ways.

I'm trying to remain objective and stay out of this Haye/Wlad crap because I'm sick of it, but this whole gag order thing just seems like a bunch of nonsense."

No, there's a press ban when negotiations are at their most intense and when another fight is signed, the press ban isn't as strict.

Why is that hard to imagine? The press ban is still in place because both camps are negotiating but as the negotiations have cooled down, so has the press ban.

If you can't see the logic behind that, you're beyond hope.


By loosened, I don't think they said "We have the Povetkin fight, the ban is loosened". I just think Haye/Booth decided to go to the press, knowing there wouldn't be any backlash from Klitschko. Again, why would there be? Negotiations won't exactly be intense right now, so why bother?

Does your logig on the press ban make any sence?

 

you are an idiot Haye has never fought on HBO anyway he has been on Showtime. They will still get good money from Showtime for a Klitschko/Haye fight. HBO has been showing **** all year so far anyway. It is basically the Golden Boy network now.

 

Well "jack" want to tell me how i missed the point and that you never said 50/50 was not offered atsch

 

I've only ever played Devil's Advocate. Well done on missing that.

Why don't you trawl through my posts again and find the posts were I said I was only defending Haye until both sides spoke?

I don't think you get it.

EDIT: Why did you put my name in quotation marks?

 

HBO has said they would buy a Haye vs Klitscko fight. HBO would pay more for that than Showtime will offer. Showtimes offer would be good but not as much as HBO.

 

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"They weren't offered 50/50 with no options "
you claimed several times this was the case Defending haye on what was offered you were wrong what exactly are you trying to defend

You can make up excuses all you want thruth is you were full of shitt about the offer about the press ban .no amount of back talking or excuse making will change that...