Two Greats meeting in the ring.

You're welcome.

Hm, I don't think Napoles qualifies as a Top10 mw.

I don't think the fighters in bold qualify for the hw Top10 leaving us with Ali-Frazier and Foreman-Frazier.

I think you got it with Robinson-Gavilan. Tunney-Greb I qualifies although. But the fight of the century is named just like that. The personal level, fire and intensity of that fight make it something very special.

Hm, does Walcott qualify for a Top10 lw?

Very true. Overlooked this fight. Shame on me.

 

Lightweight
Barney Ross vs. Tony Canzoneri


Super Featherweight
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Featherweight
Willie Pep vs. Sandy Saddler
Jim Driscoll vs. Abe Attell


Super Bantamweight
-

Bantamweight
Eder Jofre vs. Fighting Harada
Eder Jofre vs. Jose Medel (Medel is arguably great and arguably top 10 at Bantam)
Fighting Harada vs. Lionel Rose (Rose is arguably great and arguably top 10 at Bantam)
Ruben Olivares vs. Rafael Herrera (Herrera is arguably great and arguably top 10 at Bantam)
Ruben Olivares vs. Chucho Castillo (Chucho is arguably great and arguably top 10 at Bantam)

Super Flyweight
Gilberto Roman vs. Sung Kil Moon (arguably)

Flyweight
Jimmy Wilde vs. Pancho Villa
Fighting Harada vs. Hiroyuki Ebihara (Ebihara is arguably great and top 10 at Fly)

Light Flyweight
Jung Koo Chang vs. Hilario Zapata (Zapata is arguably great)

Strawweight
LMFAO

 

Do you think Wilde was still in his prime even with the 2 year lay off?

I know he fought well until the KO but he was getting on a bit!

 

Definitely not mate. I missed the 'primes' part of the question. In that case, Pep vs. Saddler needs to go, Fighting Harada vs. Hiroyuki Ebihara has to go, Jofre vs. Harada has to go and Roman vs. Moon has to go too.

LOL, basically scrap my whole post!

 

I was gonna say

 

I posted that in error without reading the thread's criteria...:good

 

Sanchez-Gomez @ feather

 

Two great immortal fighter hooked up when
Harry Greb=Mickey Walker,July 2, 1925...Two of the greatest middleweights ever , fought a great 15 round bout...Greb won from the great Toy Bulldog...If only there were film of that fight...I can dream, can't I ?.

 

Hi, Burt. You and I can both dream about seeing that one. Would you say that Greb was still in his prime when he fought Walker? I have read that he trained hard for that fight and was in tip-top shape. But, by the time he fought Walker he was probably completely blind in his right eye and had to of had quite a bit of ware and tare after all of his many battles. I kind of figured that Greb's prime was between the years of 1917-1923, or something like that. Would you agree? If not, what time spand would you say was his prime?

 

Abdullah, Nice to hear from you...No,it was commonly thought then that Greb was past his peak in 1925mwhen he beat the young Toy Bulldog...I have read in some old late 1920s Ring Magazine that just before the bout Greb was 3 pounds or so over the 160 pound limit..To get the excess weight off he had just broth to drink and ran around Central Park twice, which weakened Greb...But he had enough stamina left to last 15 rounds,and winning against a prime Mickey Walker...I believe Greb was in his prime,from 1917 to 1924...He had about 200 fights by then,and even the Pittsburgh Windmill,could'nt hold off father time...After all to use an analogy,we can only do a certain amount of push-ups in a day...But what he had left in the tank was truly amazing,as Tunney was to find out later on...B.B.

 

Greb vs Tunney - Really does have to be the ultimate pick here, closely followed by Ali vs Frazier.

Apparently Fitzsimmons vs Jeffries II was considered such a clash of the titans, although i tend to think Fitz was a little past prime, even though still great.

Most dont consider Tommy Burns an all time great, but if you do, Burns Johnson.

Ezzard Charles- Jersey Joe Walcott is a fair shout also.

Anyone think Abe Attell vs Jim Driscoll might qualify?

 

Thank you Burt and it's always nice to hear from you. I agree, it is truly amazing what Greb was capable of at that point in his career, especially considering his impaired vision and many hard-fought battles. Some might say that he was in with a smaller man, but Mickey Walker proved in his career that he could beat bigger men, so size had nothing to do with it.

So, do you have a lot of these old Ring magazines? If I had access to some of those things I would probably open one up and just get lost. By lost, I mean just sitting there reading for hours at a time about my favorite fighters from those eras. It must be nice. Then again, I guess you have a lot of that information stored in your extensive boxing memory.

 

Contrary to what many people think, both Ali and Frazier were still in their primes when they fought the first time.

 

It's pretty damn good. You'd probably have to go back to pre-WWII days to find one as good (even though I think Jofre's title comp is often very underrated).

I think it was a weight draining issue more than a prime issue. No doubt he had passed his peak, but he was still a very capable fighter. Making bantamweight was becoming too much of a task for him though, and he lost some fluidity and energy by the time of the Harada fights.