Two Greats meeting in the ring.

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  1. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    cracks me up when people try to say naz was past his prime based on earlier performances against bums...
     
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  2. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Patterson-Liston (Thud 1 & 2) ?
     
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  3. Maxmomer

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    Jack Britton vs Ted Lewis.
     
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  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I've never really looked into it, but it is quality.

    Would you still say he would have beaten most other Bantamweights that day? (Jofre)
     
    GPater11093, Mar 9, 2010
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  5. Son of Gaul

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    Ali-Frazier 1
     
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  6. bodhi

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    Well, at least you have some fun then :good
     
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  7. Son of Gaul

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    Can't argue there.
     
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  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Against the very elite at the weight, it's hard to say. I'd probably favour a prime Olivares and a prime Zarate but maybe not too many others. Though a lot of the best bantams would at least be competitive with that Jofre I feel.

    As an aside, I think Jofre was a little better prepared in the second Harada fight and performed somewhat better. That Jofre would be harder to beat than the Jofre of the first Harada fight.
     
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  9. prime

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    Langford vs. Gans.

    Ali vs. Foreman.
     
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  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Heavyweight
    Clay-Liston

    Light Heavyweight
    Moore-Charles

    Light Middleweight
    Hearns-Benitez

    Welterweight
    Leonard-Hearns/Robinson-Gavilan

    Super Bantamweight
    Morales-Barrera


    Some of these might be debateable but its the best I can do for now.
     
    Bill Butcher, Mar 10, 2010
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  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    This is mostly true, Naz was much better at 21, he was all those things you said BUT he did train like a demon for Barrera, he got in great shape, its just that Barrera was at his absolute peak then & as said above, despite Naz being ready condition wise, his reflexes were no longer the same, he was slower & relied too much, far too much on his punch power.

    Thats the way I view it.... I dont like Barrera but its far too harsh to say that Hamed never trained properly for him, its actually quite insulting to both MAB & Naz himself IMO but to each their own I guess.
     
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