Two Men Enter One Man Wins-Someone Has To Lose-It Happens-That's Boxing, Deal With It

You're seriously like my favorite poster on here. Really smart guy, always write really good posts.

 

I feel ya. Why I don't like sour g****s from JMM fans regarding the Chris John loss, why I was upset at all the fans who immediately hated on Paul Williams and everything about him after Sergio KO'd him, and why I find it funny that Victor Ortiz in particular gets heat from all angles discrediting anything possibly positive to say about him.

 

great post!

 

What I said in the other thread that is up saying the same thing...

The nature of not fighting top fighters consistently and fighting less often does mean that losing now means more than losing in previous eras.

Case by case basis for everything, though.

The fans put such a stigma on losing that promoters and managers have to coddle their fighters much more to avoid that. There is no need for a loss to be a death sentence, but it is what it is. Nobody ever laces them up to lose ('cept for fixes). The better man on the night wins ('cept for robberies).

 

Lomachenko didn't lose that fight. Despite being hit with low blows throughout the fight, he still almost took Salido out.

 

Most everybody had him losing by 1 or 2 points.

Salido got away with a ton of low blows but he isn't the first or last for that to happen to.

 

I almost fell off my chair when Jeremy Piven was being interviewed after round 3 or 4(I think) during the Khan Algieri fight. "We're going to see a stoppage in the next round or the one after" (paraphrasing). Dismissing Algieri.

 

TL;DR

Ward is the greatest as he'll be undefeated whilst whooping anyone in his path.














umad?

 

great post kind of reminds me of when Darchinyan got destroyed by Donaire then 4 fights later put on probably his best performance outboxing and stopping Mijares who everyone thought was gonna easily outbox him a loss isn't the end of the world or a fighters career.

 

I think its a testament to a fighter going out there vs the best and finding out what he is made of

I'd rather see a guy over achieve and fail than lay back and play it safe vs guys he is expected to beat easily

The greats all lost (well 99%) and they dusted themselves off and came back better

Robinson after Lamotta went on a tear

Ali after Frazier went on a tear to win back his old title in legendary fashion make him even greater

I mean Super Bowl winners go 10-6 in the season which is nearly 500. To be the best and be seen as great you have to run a gauntlet and prove yourself. The greats do that

 

I believe the fans have gotten this idea that a fighter is a bum because fighters themselves plan their career in a manner where they have to make sure they are in fights where they can't lose. They take low risk fights and pad their records. Great fighters has losses because they have challenged themselves. They try to accomplish the impossible.

 

I used to be a Mares fan

I thought he had a great future, i even entertained the idea that he could beat Donaire and maybe even Rigo at some point (madness, I know)

The guy was inspiring, taking tough challenge after tough challenge, he was a breath of fresh air in a time when high profile boxers tend to be disgraceful cherrypickers, a throwback warrior.

Then he got starched by a hasbeen like Gonzalez. Yeah, not an ATG by any means.

I was shocked.

then he avoided the rematch and looked like **** in his comeback fight against a nobody, and has looked worse everytime since then

At that point, it was over for me. I was wrong about Mares, i felt fooled and conned by him. now I despise him and hope he gets KO'd again and retires. He betrayed my trust, I spoke highly on him on forums, i defended him from haters who called him ¨limited¨ or ¨dirty¨ for fouling Agbeko. I even said stupid **** like he had a chance of upsetting Rigo. I was wrong about Mares, **** him. will never believe in him again unless he beats somewhat of note again, no wait. he'd need to beat several people of note again or else i'll think the hypejob just got lucky

 

If he feels that way about Mares based on his competition, I'd hate to see how he rates Santa Cruz...

Sometimes we are right, sometimes we are wrong. No reason for him to get that upset at Mares over losing.