Two Questions For Everyone on MUHAMMAD ALI

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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    1.Does he have the best resume of any fighter at any weight in the past 50 years? (1958-2008)

    2.If he had not lost three and a half years of his career from March 1967 to October 1970, would he now be generally accepted as the pound-for-pound greatest fighter of all-time? (consider his form right before the break in his career began, the performances against Williams, Terrell and Folley)
     
  2. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. yes

    2. speculation, but there could have been a possibility
     
  3. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    1. For me SRL's resume is the best in the past 50 years. He beat 4 legit ATGs (Benitez, Hearns, Duran and Hagler; two of whom have excellent claim to being the best ever at their weight classes [Duran at 135 and Hagler at 160]) and fought very stiff competition overall. This is not a knock on Ali's resume at all, as I consider him to be top 3 resume-wise past 50 yrs, just an opinion.

    2. W/out a doubt
     
  4. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1) I think so. Liston and Foreman were considered pretty much unbeatable. Frazier was a very good/great champ, Norton, Shavers,....

    2) I allready have him #1. Hard to say about the 3 1/2 years. Could have been unbeatable or could have got complacent and beaten. The fact he accomplished so much after the 3 1/2 years, altering his style, all the wars, chin, toughness enhances his greatness IMO.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Possibly to both.

    I think he has guys like Leonard for company as far as real quality (A level guys) of resume but obviously Ali had far more fights vs good fighters (B/B+ level) than Leonard did so very probably.

    I have a feeling that even if Ali had retired undefeated he would probably have to break either Marciano`s 49-0 or Louis`s 25 defences or maybe both for the majority to side with him over Robinson.

    I think its close but clear in SRRs favour myself just as it is already but those 2 are the best either way IMO.

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