Two questions on Robert Whittaker

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Beouche, Dec 9, 2017.



  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

    23,723
    4,035
    Oct 13, 2010
    If he manages to beat Rockhold, that would be Jacare, Romero and Rockhold on his resume, which is just ridiculous

    1. Would it make him the GOAT middleweight?

    2. Could he have beaten prime PED cheat Matrix Anderson?
     
    BEATDOWNZ likes this.
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    75,781
    15,838
    Sep 15, 2009
    I think it might be enough to make him the goat yes.

    Brunson, Jacare, Romero, Rockhold.

    Thats an insane 4 fight streak. Insane. The only issue is it's a bit Liddell, smashing all the grapplers but not beating elite strikers, and the last one he faced smashed him.

    But are there any elite strikers in the MW division today, I'd argue no. Gastelum is probably as close as it gets.
     
    BEATDOWNZ likes this.
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    75,781
    15,838
    Sep 15, 2009
    As for prime Silva, as in before the Diaz fights, he was never out struck so it's hard imagining it happening, especially against someone who's never out struck a striker.

    Very hard call, but one worth debating.
     
  4. BoxFreakBen

    BoxFreakBen New Member Full Member

    91
    52
    Sep 28, 2017
    no way to soon for a GOAT. i think he needs a little bit more than romero,rockhold and jacare. and jup i know that sounds crazy
     
  5. Manassas

    Manassas “Rumble young man rumble!” Full Member

    311
    229
    Nov 30, 2017
    Whit's on a tear, small question.

    Might depend on how he beats Rockhold (if he does)

    A long, tough match would tell us alot
     
    BEATDOWNZ and BoxFreakBen like this.
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

    23,723
    4,035
    Oct 13, 2010
    A short quick match would as well. Not many stop a monster like Rockhold early
     
    BEATDOWNZ likes this.
  7. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

    13,688
    336
    May 25, 2007
    Rockhold has 3 losses. All three via tko round 1. I'm not saying it wouldn't be impressive. I'm just saying short fights are the only way this "monster" has lost at this point.
     
  8. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

    23,723
    4,035
    Oct 13, 2010
    You're right there

    But are you implying Rockhold is not a "monster"?
     
  9. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

    13,688
    336
    May 25, 2007
    No, he definitely is. You described him that way first.
     
  10. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

    14,119
    2,772
    Oct 1, 2007
    Whittaker has been super impressive at middleweight and proved me wrong. Initially I thought he would be too small as he didn't look like a huge welter back then. I still favour Rockhold with his insane ground game but it's really close to a 50-50 fight imo. Great matchup for the real title.
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    75,781
    15,838
    Sep 15, 2009
    Jacare arguably beat him.
     
  12. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

    4,745
    2,802
    Mar 8, 2017
    I will be definitely going and can't wait to for this fight, while I don't think if Whitaker wins it makes him the GOAT as yet he at least becomes part of the discussion that win streak is hard to ignore and may end up looking better over time.I think Rockhold matches up well and as a Whitaker fan he worries me most out of the top contenders at the moment but I think Whitaker has the better stand up game with the power to test Rockholds questionable chin and eventually KO him.Prime Silva vs. Whitaker would have been fun fight,I think Whitaker definitely would've had a chance but I think Silva may have been a little to quick and win a competitive fight.
     
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2017
  13. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

    13,688
    336
    May 25, 2007
    It was very competitive, but I believe Rockhold did enough to win.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

    75,781
    15,838
    Sep 15, 2009
    I actually agree for what it's worth. I think Rockhold is a genuine ATG who has chin issues. Belfort and Bisping proved that much.

    I'm just saying it's not as simple as Rockhold only loses by 1 round ko, he very easily could have lost the Jacare decision.

    That being said I do think NK Whittaker gets him out of there.
     
    rekcutnevets likes this.
  15. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

    13,688
    336
    May 25, 2007
    :thumbsup: I was only making an observation. I'm not saying that in order to defeat Rockhold it has to be done in round one.