Two results that would change the perception of Joe Calzaghe and the SMW division

I think it's pointless trying to make Calzaghe's career look better than it was or trying to pretend that a loss would make his performances meaningless. Whatever he's achieved in his career, he has shown he can perform at the highest level, and that he is one of the best in the world. That is evident.

However, if Hopkins beat him, despite the fact that Hopkins' style is precisely the wrong style for Calzaghe, AND if Calzaghe hadn't shown a marked fall in performance compared to the Kessler fight (slower, worse reflexes, poorer stamina, etc), than, given that Bhops is 43 and very faded, yeah...it woul prove that Calzaghe was overrated and that Hopkins was underrated. It would aslo support the view that the Americans could have dominated 168 if they had wanted to.

If Miranda sparks Kessler AND if Kessler doesn't show a marked fall in performance compared to the Calzaghe fight, then yeah...it would support the view that both him and Calzaghe were overrated.

But it wouldn't PROVE anything...you can only prove something by winning in the ring.

 

Hopkins could not possibly be p4p No.1 if he beats Calzaghe, unless a miracle happens and Bhop turns back time. He can beat Calzaghe if Calzaghe isn't considerably faster and fitter than him...but in that case, it means both have declined and that both would be outside the Top 10. (e.g. Hopkins at 10 and Calzaghe at 11.)

 

stop dick riding decebal

 

:huh

Whom am I dickriding? Calzaghe? How? By not overrating his future opponent?

Think about it!:roll:

Or am I really setting up Calzaghe for a big fall, hoping Hopkins does him?:nut

In that case why would I say Hopkins would not make p4p Top 3 by beating Calzaghe?:roll:

No, mate, I'm not dick-riding anyone! Sure, I have a laugh from time to time, but when I'm obviously being serious, like now, I call it as I see it, whether it's Hopkins, Kessler, Calzaghe, Bute, JMM, Pacquiao or anyone else...

 

If Hopkins beats Calzaghe then he is making a pretty strong argument for being P4P no.1 y'know, his last two wins are more impressive than Hatton and De La Hoya, and he's 43 with a terrific legacy already in place.

 

Not really. Joe losing doesn't mean the Americans would have ruled. They, whoever they are, still need to fight as well.

And Miranda winning only proves he can beat Kessler. Pavlik, Taylor, and Hopkins don't automatically get W's over everyone @ 168 else based on a couple OTHER fighters losses. Terrible logic you used.

 

I also agree wholeheartedly, howwever I see the exact opposite outcomes.

 

It would make the Super Middleweight division look horrible:

-Their ATG Champion being defeated by a past his prime 43 year old Hopkins.

-Their #1 contender being beat by a contender that was average at 160.

 

Well........

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Edison Miranda would be schooled by Kessler anyway.

I can see Hopkins beating Calzaghe, and vice versa, and therefore am looking forward to this one.