Two Steel Middles who Melts?

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  1. mcvey

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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Steele is flat out better than Zale I think.
     
  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Freddie wins. Just an all around better fighter.
     
  4. teeto

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  5. klompton

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    At his best, before his manager/father figure died, Steele would outclass Zale.
     
  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a tough one, mcvey. Zale's resilience may be telling here...
     
  7. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    The old, Stonehands. :good
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who you calling old?I'm old between the ears, jack -that's 'bout it!
     
  9. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a fight that would have been between a prime [before the war] body puncher Tony Zale and the Freddie Steele, who was the only man to ko Vince Dundee in One Hundred and Fifty Four bouts. Steele dropped Dundee ELEVEN times, breaking Dundee's jaw before the BRAVE referee stopped the slaughter !
    Tough times breeds tough fighters,and great fighters,I might add, and Freddie Steele until his painful injury against Fred Apostoli, was close to unbeatable...What Steele also did to a tough young Gus Lesnevich ,was also mighty impressive. Cheers...
     
  10. klompton

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    Lesnevich was at least as tough as Zale if not tougher and Steele went through him like a hot knife through butter.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    As Lesnevich was of Russian descent,and Zale of Polish, that would figure.:yep
     
  12. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    don't dismiss Zale so readily, but Steele was certainly the more slick boxer and probably harder hitter, would be a good one.

    Lesnevich was in his early innings and Steele was still ripe, I'd take the Lesnevich of a few years later over Steele, H2H, likewise Zale showed himself well against the bigger Conn, as I said would have been a good one,

    of that period Apostili was equally one of the best of this overall period of middleweight marvels.
     
  13. burt bienstock

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    And Stanley Ketchel was an amalgam of the two. All tough S.O.Bs...
     
  14. klompton

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    I fail to see why people always say Zale did well against Conn. He was dominated by Conn.
     
  15. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MW (Zale) v mw cum L-HW and beyond (Conn) makes for a diff, does it not?

    Conn was merely passing through mw as it was quite clear that his stature was, and it was never a secret that he would be/was a bigger fighter.