Two Steel Middles who Melts?

T,when Lesnevich was kod by Freddie Steele in 1936, Gus already had 32 bouts. And Lesnevich of a few years later was a full grown rugged light heavyweight.
I agree about Fred Apostoli. He looks so great on film, but his undoing was Ceferino Garcia,who kod Apostoli, whilst Freddie Steele flattened Garcia TWICE. This era of great middleweights [1930-early 1940s] would have made todays middleweights run for cover...:hi:

 

Am I mistaken? Are there two middleweight champs named Freddie Steele? Or are we talking about the one with the 40% KO ratio being a harder hitter than Zale?

 

That may or may not be but its beside the point. You said Zale did well against Conn, he didnt.

 

It's not like Conn was a huge guy either way. Guys here keep describing him as a SMW over and over again.

 

Ever seen Freddie Steele fight?

 

Add Teddy and Tommy Yarosz. Two tough Poles who were never knocked out in a combined 220 fights

 

LOL as if your KO ratio is a true indicator of power. Go watch the footage that exists on Steele and then tell me he couldnt pop.

 

Don't always equate a ko average as a true indicator of power.

 

boxing GREATEST period overall, and THE BEST for the middleweight kings!!!

 

Hm, I think Zale get´s wirtten of too soon here. I´m a fan of Steele but Zale was very tough with a very good chin and a great body attack. I think he could eek out a decision at his very best. He would lose a series of fights though.

 

Read the post again and then tell me I said he couldn't pop.
Why can't people deal with the actual subject matter instead of creating a strawman argument and responding to that?

To paraphrase for the easily offended and/or overly-eager to argue, I said I don't think his career bears out that he hits any harder than Tony Zale. Unless you mean to tell me that Zale didn't hit that hard.

 

More to the point Steele could do more with that power when you consider he was faster, more versatile, a better boxer etc etc. If you look at Steeles record he was damn near unbeatable at MW until his manager/father figure died and he basically fell apart.

 

Admittedly, I have only seen a little footage of Steele and don't know his career in detail, but you all have to admit that something isn't adding up.
He has bonecrushing, concussive power, as well as excellent acumen, speed and versatility, but only a 40 % KO ratio.
It seems that one or the other can't be altogether true.
He either has the crushing power that's spoken of, and wasn't an excellent boxer with great speed, or he was an excellent boxer with average power.

Where both are true, I know of no one else with such a low KO ratio.

The description of the Dundee fight leads me to believe the latter. Sounds like he pummeled a guy mercilessly, but doesn't sound like he landed the lights out punch. Of course that's just one fight, but the main point still stands to reason.