"Two Ton" Tony Galento vs Ken Norton

He also wasnt easily cut ,guys like Holmes and Ali would be far to quick for Marcianos stationary footing to land on.

 

The pure swarmer is the worst possible style for a clinical boxer to deal with.

He is the fighter who can do the most against them with the least, and presenting a lower target makes him more difficult to deal with.

 

Against who ?He didn't fight anyone of 6'3 with a jab like those guys. Pure speculation based on a amuch smaller man who knocked out guys who stood in front of him.Not much credibility suggesting Marciano will pummel the likes of Holmes or Ali,or many tall moving jabbers .

This match itself with Gallento vs Norton is far fetched when the skills are looked at.

 

Joe Walcott was a lot more mobile than Holmes, and not a lot smaller.

Marciano probably came a lot closer to beating somebody like Holmes, than Holmes came to beating somebody like Marciano!

You make a big play of skills here, but it is not just a matter of skills, it is also a matter of styles.

Some relatively crude styles are kryptonite for much more sophisticated styles, and you should bear that in mind when considering both match ups.

 

Walcott didn't have a ramrod jab and fought a lot on the inside. Holmes is by far more technical than Walcott who again would not and did not have Holmes size and reach. If Holmes fought a slow pressure guy it would be one of the easiest fights for him in contrast to the tall boxers he had to face. Holyfield at 43 went the distance with holyfiled who pressured him and beat him up.prime Holmes simply runs circles around Marciano and toys with him,to crafty/technical and smart.

 

Walcott was 6' with a 74 inch reach and at age 30 scaled 192lbs.
Holmes was 6'3" with an 81inch reach, and typically scaled 220lbs for title defences.
Marciano never faced a quality big prime heavyweight in his entire career.

 

Walcott was a much more mobile target than Holmes, and he was about an inch and a half shorter, and he I do not see a case for Holmes being more technical.

You could not be more wrong here.

The boxers that he faced were trtying tou out Holmes Holmes.

A good pressure fighter will give the greatest technical boxer fits.

They stop them from doing what they want to do.

Holyfield was more of a boxer puncher than a swarmer, so he was actually a fairly good stylistic match for Holmes, and of course he won decisively

 

The problem is that Holmes is more of a quality medium sized heavyweight. .

 

What?lol

 

Marciano at 185 isn't going to be pressing a PRIME Holmes on the ropes,like a young Holyfield who was bigger and stronger than Marciano was,picture Marciano trying to catch 20 something Holmes or a young 30's Holmes .Do you think Holmes just lays on the ropes? If he survived Holy he wiould not take slower punches/shorter punches from Marciano. Holmes also a great chin.

Marciano was a good pressure fighter but not if he steps foot in the ring with crafty Holmes, its a huge mismatch really. You are welcome to your opinion of a marciano fan but they are far fetched.

To be clear Marciano is one of my favorite fighters, not Holmes but in a real match, Marciano isn't winning here.

 

I don't think that you are getting your head around the whole swarmer vs. boxer dynamic.

Guys like Holmes are like a robot malfunctioning when they come up against a good swarmer, even a significantly smaller one.

Win lose or draw, this is going to be a very hard night for Holmes!

 

Walcott was an even 6 foot, Holmes is 6'3".

 

I don't have much more to add ,common sense usually prevails and that would be the much faster 6'3 guy with arguably the best jab in boxing HW history out boxing the slower footed 5'10 guy who cuts easily and would need a k.o in all likley hood to win ,something only prime Tyson was able to do.

 

Yeah he has only 5 inches in height ,13 inches in reach, and 35pounds in weight on Rocky.lol Plus he is a lot faster with much more technical ability with the perfect antidote for the short croucher ,an immaculate uppercut,as if this wasn't enough Marciano was cut prone!

 

I understand that Walcott is 6' 1'' +, so we are getting into fine distinctions.

Either way, Holmes is not a big heavyweight; he is a medium sized heavyweight in historical terms.

He is more in the Joe Louis Muhammad Ali category, than the Jess Willard Lennox Lewis category.