"Two Ton" Tony Galento vs Ken Norton

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    If you'd like me to respond, you need to state your argument more clearly. I'm not going to spend time deciphering cryptic and vague posts that can be easily clarified.
     
  2. reznick

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    Yep, that's been my point. Tyson was optimized for early finishes. And was damn good at it.

    Oh, you're also forgetting a 10th round TKO, and also all his losses where he didn't score an early KO.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    Of Marciano's 43 stoppages 13 were after the half way mark. I've only counted both fighters stoppage wins.
    Yes I omitted one late stoppage by Tyson.Tyson was a much more explosive puncher imo.
     
  4. mcvey

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    It's a direct question, nothing cryptic about it.You didn't answer it on your thread and you're avoiding answering it on this one.I'll try once more.

    How do you think C*ckell ,and Lastarza would react to getting hit by Joshua or Wilder ? How about a 37 years old Walcott or a 40 years old Moore getting tagged by that current duo?
    Does C*ckell go 9 rounds with either Joshua or Wilder?
    Does Lastarza go10 & 11 rds?
    Does Ancient Moore go 9 rds ? He couldn't go 5 with Patterson a year later.
    Does Ted Lowry177.75lbs & 180.75lbs go the distance twice with either?
    Does 11-14-2 Willis Applegate ,who had lost his last 5 fights go the distance with Joshua or Wilder?
    Does Gino Buonvino 24-14-8 who had been stopped by light heavyweight Nick Barone in his previous fight ,and stopped prior to that by Lee Savold ,and light puncher Roland Lastarza go into the 10th and last round against either of them?
    You decide.
     
  5. reznick

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    It's arbitrary to ignore the losses, as the results are worse than a late stoppage, or even a win by decision.

    If Tyson loses it doesn't count, and we toss the results of his KO power? That's odd.

    Tyson had more explosive bursts of fast combos. Marciano was more explosive punch for punch.
     
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    I've already addressed this in the previous page of this thread. There is no additional content here for me to respond to.
     
  7. mcvey

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    You haven't and I didn't expect you to.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Do you think Marciano would have gone undefeated if had a 4 years absence from the game and fought until he was 39 years old? You 're something else do you know that?
     
  9. reznick

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    I'm showing a willingness to address your points. I'm just asking that you clarify, so I can know what I'm responding to.

    If you're not willing to clarify, I can't help you.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Marciano at 39 would be defending against Sonny Liston have at think about that.
    BTW I was specifically referring to you,when I said.

    "If Rocky were alive today he would have the cleanest p*nis, testicles, and anus on the planet".
     
  11. reznick

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    I'm not sure. Those are certainly dire circumstances on which to make a return to boxing.

    However, are you aware that Mike Tyson lost a fight before his absence? His 38th fight, to Douglas.
    Also, Marciano started his career late, at 24 years old. The same age Tyson lost to Douglas.
     
  12. reznick

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    Sounds like you can't get the image off your mind.
     
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  13. mcvey

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    Do you know what I can't get my head around,A grown man saying that because someone took his TV set he rang the guys girlfriend and told her he was having an affair, he didn't go round to his address himself and confront him, give him a slap and take it back , but made, an anonymous? phone call .
    I told my Lady that and she said," it's the internet he's lying,no man would publicly admit to have done such a cowardly ,backstabbing thing if he actually had done ". I said," it does take some believing".
     
  14. GALVATRON

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    Not true at all,Tyson clearly cuts the ring off him effectively.His heavy opponents of Marciano didn't have footwork why would they last longer?Tysons body shots is what slowed Biggs down and Tyson went on to admit he carried him a few more rnds to punish him for some remarks he made.

    There were no elite HW over 200 really that fought Marciano outside one or two MAYBE.Give him Mariusz Wach...do you think Marciano would k.o him? I don't,and not even sure he would win at 185 pounds tbh. You are confusing size with talent.A 185 man with no speed and easy style of smother and bang out someone is not going to have abn easy time at all with any elite 6'5 guy who can box with a legit jab. The smaller guys who fought Marciano had better skill than the big ones he did, that is not up for debate.I also believe Lastarza was probably the best fighter he fought but lacked size.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Well that's the first thing we disagree on,Lastarza was a carefully managed fighter imo, I don't rate him highly at all.