Tyson’s Chin Rating?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No, but because he was just walking forwards in straight line, the other fighters you mentioned were problem moving laterally more and trying to box, so wouldn`t have been hit as much as Mike, Tyson was all over the place when he fought these two and was pretty easy to hit compared to his prime, he was sitting duck and Douglas was on his best form, he was a very inconsistent fighter and puncher, he simply caught Tyson time and time again until he happened to land the best punch of his career, like Nunn v Kalambay.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You think Cooper was better than Tyson?! A prime Tyson would have looked far better v Cooper than Holy did.
     
  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a shame I can't give them a slap around the head to try and knock some sense in to them......
     
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm saying what Sangria is stressing, Cooper was clearly a bigger challenge towards Holyfield than Tyson was. He put it perfectly tbh.....
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    A prime Tyson would have finished Holy here if he had him in that kind of trouble, Holy`s defense was all over the place in this bout.
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield proved he could take Tyson's shots, Mike just wouldn't get Evander in that sort of trouble to begin with.
     
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  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I see the usual suspects are responsible for keeping this dog turd of a thread going....
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep,. if only Tyson's chin held up like these do......
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Tyson was not a sitting duck in the holyfield fight. He showed flashes of his old self with good combinations and head movement. But he was never just walking through the shots and showing him no respect. I don't think you know what this expression means.
     
  11. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    You don't actually believe any of this.
    You're just write childish nonsense to detract from possible discussions about the 6 times Tyson failed to go the distance.
     
  12. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    The loose ropes in the Ali-Foreman fight are controversial.
    But a boxer is allowed to lean against the ropes while getting hit.
    If a boxer is knocked down and is held up by the ropes, (ie. he's sitting on the ropes or some other non-standing position) he is declared down.
    There are probably some borderline cases.
    Holyfield against Cooper was no such "borderline" case. He fell face first into the ropes and was held up by the bottom rope while facing the crowd.
    It shouldn't even be disputable. He was down. Hence the count for the knockdown.
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    WBC rules state :

    Knockdowns
    * There is no standing 8 count
    * There will be mandatory 8 count after a knockdown
    * If the ropes prevent a fighter going down, the referee will call it a knockdown

    IBF rules state :

    * a boxer is deemed down if ........ he is hanging helplessly over the ropes as the result of a legal blow as ruled by the referee, who is the only person authorized to determine this.
    * There will be a mandatory knockdown if one of the contestants is knocked off the soles of his feet or draped helplessly across the ropes.

    WBA rules state :
    * a boxer shall be considered "down" ...... ... or when he hangs helplessly over the ropes



    Holyfield was clearly in a helpless state hanging in the ropes when Mills called the knockdown. He was even facing the wrong way on the ropes .... LOL
    Definitely that would classified as "helplessly draped" !
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    Mike Tyson had an excellent chin, by the way.
    I'm outta here.
    x
     
  15. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think those rules were in place 27 years ago. But, if they were, I stand corrected. Either way, I respect your opinion, and appreciate your well-reasoned follow up.