Tyson all but admits he would not beat the Klitschko's

Lol. Three jobs in a year? When did that supposedly happen? Please give us some details. I can post my tax filings going back as far as you like to disprove that little fiction. Lets see, what else, my wife leaving me? LOL. If thats a bad thing I'll continue on gleefully on the wrong end of that argument. I couldnt have been relieved of worse dead weight than if Id had a 100 pound tumor removed from my ass. The funny thing is unlike you I have nothing to hide and anyone here can easily find my name and whatever details they want. Hell, they can just ask me. I dont need to hide behind a psuedonym and pretend to be keyboard warrior "mendoza." But Im sure anytime you feel froggy we can "meet in the airport" :-( The problem is I dont frequent airport mens rooms like you so that wont be happening anytime soon.

 

Not really. Holyfield went to 210 pounds pretty quickly but he never really went as big as some of the others. I guess 215 or 217. He could have got much bigger if he was the biggest or most blatant 'roider.

I think Briggs is most blatant.

Depends what you mean by suddenly.
To be fair, skinny kids who have never lifted before can get in the gym, eat well, train heavy, and put on a lot of size, drug-free, in 6 months or a year. Of course if they literally look like Arnold Schwarzengger in that time, it's 'roids.


Tyson from a young age was always a fat kid, fat kids who train hard always develop much bigger muscles, its the skinny guys who suddenly walk around looking like Arnold Schwarznegger are the ones you need to be wary of.

That's five years though.
You could say the same about Ruddock or Lewis over a 5 year period. Frank Bruno.

Anyway, Holyfield was probably on PEDs long before 1991.
Realistically, most the elite heavyweights are on PEDs.

And it's not about physique. Some PEDs don't do that much for size but do increase strength and recovery.
E.g Evander Holyfield. Compare this guy from 91 to 96 and tell me hes not on peds.

 

McNeeley fight is pretty obvious to me.
Even though I said it's not just about physique ... sometimes it is !
And the logic of him taking something extra on getting out of jail is solid enough.

 

You're calling Klompton2 a racist? Nothing could be further from the truth imo. He may be a might *****ly to some but its because he doesn't suffer the fools on this forum, and calls them on the BS they spew. As far as boxing knowledge he's one whose posts I value

 

"There was mention I burned through three jobs in one year?" Again, please tell because Im more than willing to back that lie straight of your ass. Just because you say it doesnt make it true. I may have WORKED AT three jobs in one year (and Im not even sure Ive ever done that) but I havent burned through three jobs in one year since I was about 18.

I fail to see how anything in that post of mine is an indictment of me or my character or even proof of me lying about anything (something you are accused of quite regularly) and I couldnt give a **** what anyone at the CBZ had to say about me. Where are they now? They drove that website totally into the ground for banning anyone that didnt agree with what became a very small boys club. By the end it was a joke populated by about three posters that you only visited if you wanted to see scribbs repost other peoples news stories. Thats what happens when you let the lunatics like yourself and Gordoom run the asylum.

 

kills both klits within the distance on the same night, wlad inside round 1, and vits by tko.

 

I dont think Tyson was on anything for the Mcneeley fight, if anything, he looked starved, thin, weak and feeble in that.

 

I agree with most all you say about PEDs Unforgiven.

Though I do not see any indication that most HWs or boxers are on them. I am sure a fair % are, but do we really have any halfway decent reason to believe it is 20%, 50%,or 80%? That it can give an advantage & is not uncommon really does not show how prevalent it is in boxing.

Also there still is no indication at all Tyson used PEDs. He was always naturally biig, worked very hard, muscle had memory, he never grew very suddenly or reached a level that is improbable for someone with his bone structure to achieve.

I recall when Tyson & Holyfield fought at 217. Holyfield was even leaner, but mainly, Most of his mass was in his upper body, he never developed big legs. They were listed at 22" & 13" upper & lower.

I agree about many taking steroids that maximize endurance & strength, not bulk. We must be careful about reaching firm conclusions however, especially when talking about elite athletes w/much natural potential & access to great training. There is the whole Evan Fields thing with Holyfield though, a damning expose...

 

Tyson juiced, just like Holyfield, Lewis and plenty others probably did. Juice or no juice, he still got his ass kicked by Holyfield and would have always done.

 

Tyson hired a steroid dealer/user Chad Nicholls who also supplied his wife Miss Olympia and Ronnie Coleman.

Ask yourself, given Tyson's moral compass, why would he not use steroids?