Tyson challenges Holyfield before going to jail

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought Pre - Prison Tyson Ko's Evander. Holyfields steroid usage hadn't maxed out yet and produced the hulk he later became for those Tyson fights
     
  2. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holyfield, every time. But Buster Douglas beat him to it. :ggg
     
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  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’ll never understand this mentality.

    Are you ignoring the entirety of boxing history, which tells us that there are two people in the ring throwing punches and sometimes the opponent has success and the fighter has to overcome adversity? Which fighters in history never faced adversity.

    Overcoming adversity is a mark of greatness in a fighter.

    So you’re holding it against Holyfield that he actually OVERCAME adversity … but Tyson (who never once overcame adversity) gets a pass because you’ll take any old excuse for him getting completely dominated by a 42-1 underdog.

    SMFH.
     
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  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Just have that same energy for Tyson Fury against Ngannou and we’re good.
     
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  5. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Tyson has come back from adversity on multiple occasions. Even against Big Bus when Dougie was saved by the bell in the 8th...after a long count!!

    Holyfield was far, FAR more beatable than Tyson. "Undefeated, Undisputed & Unbeatable" was a phrase invented for Mike Tyson himself.
     
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  6. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Speaking of long counts - Tyson didn't beat his, lol.
     
  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Douglas was first, it cancels out the 2nd. Come on, keep up with Don King here!!

    “I'm a promoter of the people for the people and by the people and my magic lies in my people ties."

    (Pssst...having a go with Saint Patrick. Dude becomes unglued at the mere mention of these 3 words - Iron, Mike and Tyson)
     
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  8. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great guy Don King was... Mike can vouch for that.
     
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  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excuse me, I wasn’t clear.

    Tyson never came back from adversity to WIN. (Yeah, he was behind a bit vs the pedestrian Frans Botha and won, but never in distress in a way that would be characterized as adversity.

    And your catchphrase is just PR hype. By your reckoning, I guess we should stop debating all-time P4P because Mayweather was billed as TBE (The Best Ever), lol.

    Mike was undefeated … until he fought Buster Douglas. He wasn’t undefeated for as long as Larry Holmes or Rocky Marciano, to name two.

    Mike was undisputed … for about 18 months — from Spinks to Douglas. That encompassed all of two fights (against Bruno and Truth Williams).

    And if he was unbeatable, how tf did Buster dominate him like that? He was in his prime at 23 years old — if he’s unbeatable, he wins and there’s no need for excuses. He was Goldilocks … he would win when everything was ‘just right’ — and every time he loses, his little army says ‘doesn’t count, he gets an asterisk * because he has an excuse.’

    Holyfield was no more beatable than Mike. In fact, Holyfield was less beatable than Tyson the two times they fought, haha, because. He won.
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    The spirit of the lord, with even more help from steroids, and his dome, was Holyfield then and only then able to beat Tyson.

    Tyson came back from adversity on a many occasion to win: Tillis, Bruno, Ruddock, Botha, Spinks, Holmes, Bonecrusher and the most important one that gets overlooked was the first 7 seconds against Alex Stewart.