He wasn't all hype. He was about right for the level he fought at - British and Commonwealth with a serious beating at title level. I've never said otherwise, and I don't see how you could dispute this.
Was Holmes approaching 40? Yes Did Bruno have a detached retna? Yes Was Tyson a shell of his former self? He was the day he walked out the prison gates.
Never on Danny's level? What has Danny Williams accomplish in his career which is better than what Tyson had accomplished? Is that an stupidity out of being clueless? Or you are just being blinded by your love for Danny Williams? :think Which ever it is . . . you are surely making yourself look like a big joke.
The guy . . . dominated the HWD at one point in his career, had Wliiams ever came close to that? ATG? Why . . . what makes you so sure that Williams had fought any ATG at this point? :think
Im not saying he has but in another thread we have people claiming Calzaghe cant be an ATG as he has never beaten an ATG.
Well separate the Hypes from the facts . . . we don't and we can't determine who are going to be ATG's or who's not while these fighters are still active. Only time can tell.
That's true for the bordeline cases and the guys still at the beginning of careers, but I think it's pretty obvious that Hopkins, Jones and Mayweather all qualify without having to be retired to do so.
I agree. These fighters have already accomplished so much. Infact I wanted Bhops and RJones to retire now . . . so their places in the ATG won't be threatened anymore. :yep
danny is a tough fighter but no where in the same level as tyson, tyson would have won that fight if he was not injured in the first round, how can you fight when you cannot pivot and throw properly? but we all know how that turned out, no excuses for tyson, bottom line he still lost fair and square,
He never complained about the long count. Headbutts - did you see the gashes he had over his eyes after/during the Holy fights? Knee injury - I dunno bout that.
no I didnt, me claiming that after he came out of prison he wasnt as good as he was before is not contradictory.