Tyson Douglas Post Fight Analysis

Stop sticking your nose in a discussion you don't belong. I was merely making a point of why there was controversy, not arguing Douglas somehow got an unfair advantage.

 

I dont really care to continue to argue it, but yes Meyran was supposed to use the ringside timekeeper to pick up the count. He cant just start the count when he wants. He can only stop the count for two specific reasons. The opponent is not in the neutral corner or the count is useless because the fight is going to be stopped.
Yes the ref can start the count on his own if he does not break the action, but he cant, if he ushers an opponent to a neutral corner and loses track of the seconds. This is the reason the ringside timekeeper exists.

 

The referee can do whatever he wishes in officiating the fight, he is the sole judge inside the squared circle, that is set in stone.

As time has gone by, more officials have been added, supposedly to help make his job that bit easier. But the truth is, if a Referee cannot count to ten without the help of others, he has no place in the ring.

Meyran could count ten...

 

If you are moving and instructing a fighter to the neutral corner how can you count the knockdown seconds at the same time? You cant, thats why the timekeeper was added so they can pick up the count once they do so.

 

Nice job, you've provided proof of what you've said and your right he has to start the count where the time keeper left off, or it's gonna be a slow count. I've argued this point with many of people all the time but people waist too much time listening to what other people tell them instead of doing their own research and the majority of people are usually programmed to believe what they hear if they hear it all the time instead of thinking for theirself and actually going to the main source.

 

What a child like response.

 

Hearing this a lot nowadays. Getting up there with the "Tyson was afraid of Foreman" bullshat. And I half expect Lewis to pinkie point when sipping his cup of tea.

 

I think this particular quote by Lewis is the most important crux of his problems:

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Without Rooney (who he clearly respected) constantly reminding Mike between every round to be elusive (make 'em miss, make 'em pay), to bang to the body to wear out opponents & lower their guards, & use numbered D'Amato combinations... Tyson became the slugger-stereotype, totally in love with his raw power, trying to get by on a natural instinct of loading-up with one big telegraphed bomb at a time, & hoping to end things with every punch, while not giving a **** about defense. Snowell & Bright were mates with him, but both were very inexperienced & incompetent, as Lewis said they were in shock themselves when Buster was doing well, & what poor advice they did offer was counter-productive negative useless nonsense, as Mcrory sums up...

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But the other Tyson was not fighting anyone as good as Douglas.

Tyson losing to Douglas was not really a blip or a freak loss to a journeyman. Had page fought douglas one fight earlier Buster would have been WBA champ as early as 1985!

Douglas, if you examine his record, always was a great fighter, he just blew hot and cold because he was not groomed like a regular prospect. Around the Tyson fight he was genuinely among the best 3 fighters in the world. we just didn’t know it or credit that buster could be at that time. he slipped under the radar because the world was only watching one heavyweight.

Sure Buster blew one fight against Tucker that he was winning but Tucker was also Tysons best chalenger, we should have known beter.

 

Tyson was so talented he had too easy a time against fighters who should have tested him on the way up. Maybe the fighters who should have tested him did not perform, maybe they were too old or too effected by the hype - who knows? Steam rolling over spinks, berbick and holmes were all one way trafic fights. Tyson did not develop quite the world level seasoning to see him through, to help him cope in a tough situation where the other guy has an answer for all the stuff you are trying to do.

Having a poor corner got Tyson through bruno and williams ok so you cannot blame the result so entirely on the corner. Tyson was in shape but in deep water without the seasoning to cope. Douglas had all the answers that night and was a good fighter who wanted to win. Rooney could say all he liked if he was there but Tyson was the one who needed to dig deep, draw from within and find the answer on his own.

 

Another ridiculous post. Douglas only brought his great skills one night but showcased them slightly against giant killers Berbick and Mcall but decided to go back to being a midland level contender after defeating Tyson. Tyson's lack of preparation had nothing to do with it. Douglas was way better than anyone Tyson ever faced, but he only wanted to be a great fighter one night. atsch

I think the myth of Douglas has grown to be on par with Bigfoot.

 

Nothing mythical about Bigfoot. A solid journeyman who took many a contender the distance in the late 80s/early 90s. I was there the night he took everything Gary Mason could throw at him.

 

I miss Paul Dempsey on the boxing. knowledgable and likeable