Tyson Douglas Post Fight Analysis

Well then, all the more reason Tyson should have found a way to beat the guy, right?

Douglas did have pedigree and he was not a fighter with a name on the way down the ladder like so many of those Tyson victims. How many of those title challengers were in top form and had been outstanding in their recent form? The thing with Douglas was he was a guy far less shopworn than that. If Douglas head been another guy way down the ladder, he does not survive the knockdown or loses the fight at a different point during the bout. But he still had those reflexes and legs and had not deteriorated.

 

exactly. If you study the records of Tyson’s contenders that year Douglas has more to offer than all of them in the way of size, pedigree and potential. He was winning fights and on a roll since the tucker setback and had proved he was worthy of world level since 1984. He was totally overlooked. Douglas was the biggest guy with the fastest hands and proven at the level.

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witherspoon
orlin norris
buster douglas
carl williams
razor ruddock
garry mason

 

Thomas was definitely in top form against Tyson. He showed up and came to fight. Tubbs was also game. His weight was a non factor since it fluctuated up and down and reached the mid 240's in several of his fights. So Douglas beat a couple names like McCall and Berbick. Tyson practically beat the whole division and Douglas became the challenger almost by default. Did he deserve the shot? Sure. The fight with Ruddock was cancelled and Holyfield was looming. But claiming he was better than Tyson's previous challengers is nonsense.

 

pinklon thomas was a good fighter against tillis, and tim witherspoon but going in against Tyson pinklon had not beat a rated fighter since beating #9 rated mike weaver in 1985, the year Tyson turned pro!

Thats right douglas beat berbick - the guy who also beat thomas...

Tubbs weight was a factor but a bigger factor was his pedigree at that time. had douglas fought page one fight earlier than he did tubbs never would have been a champion! tubbs was knocked down by the only other unbeaten fighter he had ever fought (clarance hill). when he fought TYson, tubbs had not beat a rated fighter since Tyson turned pro in 1985 three years earlier! There was no demand for a tyson v tubbs fight.

Tyson was a great fighter. Tucker, Bruno and berbick were the only live chalengers Tyson met in championship fights but they were no beter than douglas.

 

Thats right douglas beat berbick - the guy who also beat thomas...



And Tyson beat Ferguson and Tucker, who both beat Douglas.

Berbick hadn't done anything of note, besides getting destroyed by Tyson and losing to Carl William, since upsetting Thomas. Yet he's Douglas' best win prior to Tokyo.

Douglas better than anyone Tyson fought...NAH. I'm not buying it, probably never will.

 

No, berbick was only one of Douglas best wins. alongside cobb in 84', page in 85', mike wiliams (who had only lost to a 217lb witherspoon by SD) and oliver mccall douglas had other impresive wins.

Altogether Douglas fought 6 unbeaten fighters before his first title fight, 5 "at the time" rated contenders and 3 world champions. that’s a beter resume than mike dokes, page and tubbs right there!

this is true and why Tyson deserved to be favourite against Douglas. On closer examination when buster fought Ferguson Jessie was 11-0 and had fought 7 times in new jersey where the fight took place. still, judge rocky castilani had the fight 5-5 in rounds.

OK, name one other chalenger who was beating rated contenders going into a Tyson fight pre Tokyo.

 

So what happened in the Holyfield fight? He came in unfocused and in poor condition and completely embarrassed himself worse than Tyson did or was he shopworn and deteriorated by then? Your post is as bad as the other guys.

 

This is true. Douglas was a disgrace for holyfeild. but it doesnt detract from the fighter douglas was going into the Tyson fight anymore than say witherspoon losing to bonecrusher smith should detract from the fighter people say tim was when he was in shape..

 

Douglas was as badly prepared both mentally and physically as Tyson was when he faced Holyfield and the result was on par with what you would expect from a fighter of Douglas ability for being so.

 

Tyson was a disgrace against Douglas too.

 

No tyson was brave against douglas. He was fit enough and brave enough to take a real pounding because he belived in himself, no shame in that.

 

Good stuff! :happy

 

Holy **** did u guys notice Lewis hardly has an accent in this interview?

My dad was right, Lewis was a ****in fake. My dad always said that, i never understood why. Lewis was from the same city as us in Kitchener, Ontario.

Lewis always tried to push that british accent later on in his career, ****in fake.

 

Exactly. Douglas was nowhere remotely close to being out.

 

Tyson was brave because he was the undisputed champion of the world and undefeated. He disgraced himself by not preparing himself and conducting himself the way he had done in the past and the Douglas fight wasn't the first, he was inconsistent and sloppy leading up to it.