Tyson - Douglas Scorecards

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This ones for you Unforgiven

    Taken from Tysons autobiography.
    Chapter 19 - Defeat! - Page 350

    Lost in the artificial long count controversy were two other important pieces of information. First Douglas thoroughly dominated the fight from beginning to end: he landed more punches (230) than Tyson threw (214)! And, second, if anything deserved investigation, it was not the length of the count, but the manner in which the WBC judges scored the fight. While Larry Rozadilla had an accurate card through 9 rounds, with Douglas ahead 88-82, judge Masakazu Uchida had the fight dead even at 86-86, and judge Ken Morita, incredibly had Tyson ahead 87-86!
    James Sterngold, in the New York Times, summed it up by writing of the scorecards, 'it suggested to some fight people that politics were already at play to keep Tyson champion (had the fight gone to a decision).
    "In Japan and Korea," said the IBF spokesman, Sy Roseman, "they have a history of promoters buying judges and some of the most ludicrous decisions."





    Ps. I swear the third judge, is the dude from the Karate Kid movies?
     
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  2. Unforgiven

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    :good

    Perhaps the most ridiculous crooked scoring in the history of boxing. :lol:
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    the score cards are a shambles.

    Not only that but it detracts from Tyson's legacy by claiming otherwise.

    he wasn't caught by a lucky shot, he got his arse kicked and went out on his shield showing more bravery than he ever previously had to.
     
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  4. Unforgiven

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    :lol:

    [url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001552/[/url]
     
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  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IF Tyson had got through Douglas on the scorecards....

    Would Holyfield have got robbed too, if they had fought straight after, as originally scheduled? (If that fight went to the scorecards too)

    Makes you wonder, Douglas was LUCKY he kod Tyson
     
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  6. Azzer85

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    Japanes + similar sounding names = theyve got to be related
     
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  7. cangryman

    cangryman Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson didnt train hard for that fight and lost because of it
     
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  8. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think had the fight went the full 12, Tyson would have won.
     
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  9. PowerPuncher

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    The judges employed by DKP knew better than to vote against the home town fighter, those are the rules when you roll with DKP
     
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  10. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Douglas won every round except for the 8th. At best there might have been one even round, but that's about it.

    The promotion needed to buy the ref, not the judges. If Meyran hadn't given Dougals a 14 second count, who knows, maybe Tyson would have won by KO.
     
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  11. lefthook31

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    Love the comment by the IBF, they were just as bad, (Lewis Holyfield draw). Douglas was a King promoted fighter. Duva and Co, would have made sure the fight was on a fair playing ground before making it happen, and the stink of a bad decision would have made it far more difficult for King to fix the fight. One thing for sure, Tyson would have trained for Holyfield.
     
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  12. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And he would have beaten him too :good
     
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  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    A competent referee would've been infinitely more useful than crooked judges. :yep
     
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  14. Azzer85

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    I think the referee was ok, he did the right job and the count was EQUAL for both fighters
     
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  15. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    This argument again?! :patsch

    The point is, the knockdown that came FIRST, not that they both got equal longcounts.

    With a correctly timed count, picked up from the timekeeper, Buster might not have got up, so the result would be "Tyson KO8 Douglas"...

    Whereas the actual ending happened in round 10... & there ain't no "round 10" with a legit KO in round 8. :deal


    P.S: Cool avatar. :thumbsup
     
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