Tyson from Etienne versus Lewis: Any difference in the outcome?

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  1. Temiken

    Temiken Member Full Member

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    So, one year after Mike was humbled by the The Lion, he shows up to the Clifford Etienne fight looking like this:

    http://im.rediff.com/movies/2007/apr/12tyson.jpg

    Pretty bad ass.
    He's in great shape and clearly at his lowest weight since his first comeback.

    So the question is: "Does it change the outcome?"

    I'm going to argue "no" because Lewise was still so much better at that point, but perhaps the better conditioned Mike gives a few more tough rounds and because he can throw more punches, longer, might catch Double L at some point early.

    Whaddya guys think?
     
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  2. SNV

    SNV Sugar Nikolai Valuev Full Member

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    No.
     
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  3. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    He was still a long way past his best. Although if he was game, he could take Lewis the distance. But that is unlikely.
     
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  4. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    No difference.
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Being lighter and a bit quicker might make him slightly more elusive but at best he lasts a couple more rounds before being stopped, maybe not even that.
     
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  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Absolutely not. Ettienne could be an entertaining fighter, but he wasn't anything ever. He had a 'glass temple' as evient fro his fight w/ Oquendo and Botha.
     
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  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no tyson cant lose by points ever
     
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  8. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    ****, yeah my bad. Lewis would probably knock him out anyway though.
     
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  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He would be stopped earlier by Lewis.
     
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  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Puncher's chance for Tyson.
    (If I had to bet again in '02, I'd put my money on Tyson)

    It's ****en HW's whoever lands first.
     
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  11. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Had Tyson got with Roach much earlier, around 99/00 when he got with Tommy Brooks then I think that may have made a difference.
    He got Mike working the left hand rather than just single right hand bombs.

    The Tyson by the time he fought Lewis/ Ettienne was horrible. Timing/balance and quickness all badly erroded, and I dont think any Tyson performance after the Bruno 2 fight would have beaten Lewis.
     
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  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very ******ed question, and I'm Tyson's biggest fan. There'd be zero differance.

    Tyson doesnt beat Lewis anytime after 97.

    If they had fought around 96-ish, I think Tyson would have won.

    The pre-prison Tyson destroys Lewis no doubt in my mind.
     
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  13. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos MĪƒderator Full Member

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    It's entirely unclear how good Tyson was against Etienne. First, the Etienne knockout looked dodgy, but OK, let's say it was real. That fight lasted mere seconds. We have no idea what would have happened had he survived the initial barrage.

    Isn't this the fight he claimed he broke his back?
     
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  14. anut

    anut Boxing Addict banned

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    NO TYSON FROM 1995(WHEN HE GOT OUT OF THE PEN)....COULD NEVER BEAT LENNOX LEWIS.....TYSON WAS ALREADY A SHOT FIGHTER WHEN HE FOUGHT MCNEELY/MATHIS JR OR EVEN FRANK BRUNO.......HEAD MOVEMENT WAS TOTALLY GONE..........BUT IF WE GO BACK TO 91.....TYSON BEATS LENNOX LEWIS.........LEWIS TOOK 8 FUKIN RDS TO BEAT A SHOT CORPSE IN 2002........TYSON IN 91 WAS A LITTLE PAST HIS PRIME.....BUT HE BEAT THE **** OUTTA RUDDOCK IN THOSE 2 FIGHTS.......TYSONS HEAD MOVEMENT WAS GONE.....AND NOT THROWING COMBINATIONS AND HEAD HUNTING AT TIMES.......BUT ONE THING TYSON SHOWED TO ME IN THOSE 2 RUDDOCK FIGHTS.....THE ART OF BODY PUNCHING.........ESPECIALLY LATE OF THE 2ND FIGHT WITH RAZOR RUDDOCK.............TYSONES WAY FASTER AND HARDER TO HIT THAN DAVID TUA............LEWIS WAS SO PASSIVE AGAINST TUA........LENNOX LEWIS WOULD GET KNOCKED OUT MY MIKE TYSON..........EVEN A PAST PRIME TYSON AGAINST RUDDOCK STILL BEATS PRIME LEWIS OF 1999 OR 2000...:good
     
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  15. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no
     
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