Tyson from Etienne versus Lewis: Any difference in the outcome?

No.

 

In 1996 tyson paid lewis 4 or 14 million dollars not to fight him. Either way tyson and his team real fancied their chances? Not a cat in hells chance tyson in 1990's beats lewis period. How much do you think a heavyweight champion makes. That kind of money tells you everything. If you want to give me 4 million dollars to believe Tyson would have kicked Lewis ass.

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Wait wait wait, this is gonna be fun!

I assume the question is how'd Tyson of the Etienne fight would do vs. the Lewis at the time. Luckily for us, Lennox Lewis fought Quitali Shitchko just a few weeks later, so we saw both performing.

Now the Lewis fans spent the last 2 weeks raging about how ancient, shot, fat and out of shape Lennox was in a fight he got away with a W on cuts, behind on the cards.

So the question using Lewis fans' logic really is, and I am asking them: Tyson from Etienne vs. an ancient, fat, shot, out of shape Lewis - any difference in the outcome? :deal

 

None of the 58 Mike Tysons beat Lennox Lewis, none.

 

Damn right.

Tyson was in no better shape for Clifford Etienne than he was for Lewis, even if he was 3 pounds lighter on the scales.

 

Ive always been convinvced that Etienne took a dive. Tyson and him were friends prior to the fight. Mike needed a big KO win and Clifford needed money. I watched the fight countless times, and I truly believe it was fixed. Either way, Mike would have beaten Clifford even if he had come to fight.

 

Take Tyson from any period, put in a prime Tyson with a past-prime Lewis and he would still tie up and hold him in close quarters and lean on him until he's tired, then slaughter him like a pig from the outside.

Tyson was too limited and lacking in the ring-intelligence department to out-smart Lewis.

 

Stopped inside 6 - he was shot when came out of jail and he had the 8 round beatdown from Lewis in his system.

As regards the idea that Tyson didn't fight his normal fight there's one reason only for that - Lennox Lewis!

Watch the first 30 seconds of the Lewis v Tyson - Tyson charged out looking to intimidate Lewis, gets turned and nailed with two hellacious uppercuts that shook him to his boots.

That was the fight won there and then

 

Agreed :good

Fact is Tyson was very crude and 1 dimensional in that he had one style and one gameplan and if that didn't work against a a decent boxer (as we saw many times) he got frustrated and picked apart.

Lewis didn't just beat the '02 version of Tyson, Lewis also beat Tyson in sparring in '84 (2 years prior to the start of Tysons so called prime) to the point where on the 3rd day of sparring LL was laughing and taunting Tyson in the ring and Cus had to stop sparring and drive Lennox to the airport. In '84 Tyson was a 210lbs dude about to turn pro, Lewis had only 1 senior Amateur bout at this point and was a 6ft 3" 200lbs bean pole. If Lewis outboxed a slightly pre prime Tyson and dismantled a post prime Tyson (baring in mind Lewis wasn't in his prime for either too) why should i be led to believe any other version of Tyson could do something different? Because he looked awesome in bowling over tin cans for a few years?

 

He gets knocked out wither way

 

tyson crude and one dimensional??....maybe post prison, but peak tyson was far from one dimensional...he had one of the most formidable arsenals any heavyweight has had in history, fast hands, great footwork, superb head movement, an underrated jab that could land like a repating decimal and very underrated defensive abilties, he slipped, blocked and parried so many punches....i will admit his peak was very, very short time, but the kid was a ****in wrecking ball in his time, and, i truly believe, with the right training and less sycophantic hangers on, could have been so much more than a 'what if??...'

 

It's not a myth, it's fact... look it up. It's in lennox Lewis's book with wuotes from 2 trainers that were there too

 

Do you not understand the term one dimensional? He was one dimensional in that the only way he could fight was steaming forward bobbing and weaving and winging in shots, he didn't have a game plan other than that, he didn't know how to adapt when his steamroller style wasn't working. when a decent boxer with a size advantage could continuously stick a jab in his face Tyson would continue to steam forward, eating jabs trying to get his Hayemakers off (watch the Douglas fight for evidence of this. Although that is conveniently when Tysons 2 year prime apparently ended).

The biggest myth in boxing is the greatness of Mike Tyson. I love watching Mike and often watch his fights over for entertainment but the guy is not as great as a lot of you fight fans like to believe. He was great to watch, but not a great boxer.

Lewis could come at you and be aggressive putting together combos, he could fight you on the inside and he could fight off the back foot and pot shot and jab you to death... Tyson could pressure you.... that's it