Tyson Fury - A Cautionary Tale

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  1. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    After the postponement of the Usyk fight - and seeing the negativity (not surprising) toward Fury after - it got me thinking … has there ever been a fighter who’s had such a dramatic fall from grace, in terms of popularity?
    When Fury came back from mental health issues to draw with - and then beat - Wilder the public loved him. The comeback story and achievements had him riding high.
    But a succession of unnecessary fights, being frequently untrustworthy with the public and a perception he’s avoiding Usyk have all seen his popularity completely nose dive. And it’s all, arguably, self inflicted.
    I guess my question is … have you ever seen anything like it before? Do you agree that it's all his own fault? And is it reversible at all??
     
  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Good

    The fair weather fanboys can be left in the dirt

    Always has to be a "bad guy" and Fury was never going to be the "good guy" against Usyk

    Too many have been suckered in the antics building up to this fight. Usyk and Fury actually get along very well. Both trying not to blush around each other in their face to face.

    Usyk's management have been the bad guys in this for me in terms of lack of professionalism then face to face they suck up to Fury pretending it's all banter. They've been totally out of line so many times all whilst Fury is there securing them the biggest bag possible. Their translating is the only reason they are in the picture. I don't care to see or hear from Egis Klit whatever his name is or that other bloke just as much as I don't want to hear from Frank Warren. Good old Bob Arum staying out of the picture although age dictates that.
     
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  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is motivated purely by money and has been for a number of years now.

    It was only a matter of time before his motivations betrayed him and manifested themselves into his actions.
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say Tony Ayala Jr's and Ike Ibeabucchi's were a wee bit worse.

    First Tyson's is comparable in many ways.
     
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  5. Drstillhammer

    Drstillhammer Member Full Member

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    How the gypsy king became the gypsy bum in just 2 years time. The irony of becoming a dosser.

    Still. Never count him out. If there is a way to win this impossible task; tyson can figure it out.
     
  6. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    I still think Fury will win in May. Moreso now that he has time to work on stamina.
    That won't effect the eye.
     
  7. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Love him or hate him the Usyk fight is gonna be huge mainly because of him. If all the folks that supposedly hate him or his antics passed on paying for the fight, ( but you know they won’t ) it might mean something but in reality all this bitching doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
     
  8. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Every issue that has brought his popularity down is due to something he's said or done or more likely NOT done.
     
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  9. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr. comes to mind. Regarded as a once-in-a-lifetime talent and unfortunate victim of one of the most blatant corruption scandals in Olympics history, he was seen by many as second to only Sugar Ray Robinson as the perfect fighting specimen. But as Roy’s career went on, he began turning many hardcore fans off with a cushy HBO contract, speaking of himself in the 3rd person, making a petty rap song against the fans that wanted the “old” Roy back, coasting to 120 / 108 scorecards against hopeless “mandatories” and culminating with a cherry-pick of the most unworthy heavyweight titlist in boxing.
    So when Roy got KTFO by one punch in the Tarver rematch, and then brutally ragdolled by a journeyman in his next fight, many fans said it was karma for his hubris. Now, there’s a couple of generations of boxing fans who consider him a china-chinned fraud who ducked big fights in order to play the sanctioning bodies games and Roy really has no one to blame for that but himself.
     
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  10. Goran_

    Goran_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    It's his own doing.. greed & ego.. got the better of him
     
  11. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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  12. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You guys forgot how Brits were treating Fury when he beat Wlad.

    Nobody cared for him, until he beat Wilder and hype started right after that.
     
  13. themaster999

    themaster999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Furys bull**** has just finally caught up with him.

    Was inevitable really

    One trick pony Father bleating on constantly, and Love Island brother haven't helped things.
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I try not to get caught up in all the BS in the build up to a big fight. Fact is he was always going to be portrayed as the villain in a fight against Usyk who is squeaky clean compared to Fury. Fury only attained the popularity he did because he had a trilogy with the one fighter in the division who was even less likeable than him, so once he started fighting other opposition the crowd would slowly turn on him.

    So yes he's had a fall from grace but don't mistake that for a lack of interest in him as a boxer the casuals lap all this drama up from the delays to the cut it just feeds into the media circus around this fight and will pay off in terms of buys for the fight. Fury probably prefers the role of the villain as he seems to need that antagonism to motivate him.

    Boxers have done worse things than him dragging out this fight. Dave Hilton abused his daughter, Valero and Monzon murdered their partners so I wouldn't say his fall from grace was as big as it's made out to be, it just seems bad now because were in the thick of it. Just look at Mike Tyson was vilified by the media and public for the later parts of his career, from biting Holyfied, the alleged ****, violent assaults and general bad behaviour yet now he's practically beloved. Once Fury retires he'll probably be more liked and respected than he is now.
     
  15. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    After his Wilder 2 performance (which was a great performance) he has become more and more of an insufferable diva and subsequently has regressed significantly.

    Not sure I'd call him a villain. He's just a bit of a tool these days.