Tyson Fury Against Anthony Joshua .... Why?

Me too, that is why I try to find a little humor in it by making amusing threads. Sometimes potential matches are like a broken record, stuck on one place. Then we have the Flavor Of The Month Award for fighters that we are stuck with and can't let go. Then at the same time, boxing at times appears to replicate a Soap opera or an old Lady Clairol commercial, Does She Or Doesn't She.

 

I am 63, will be 64 on Feb 4 2023. I sure do remember those commercials.

 

Joshua could lose to some bum in the meantime & the fight loses a lot of value. especially if he retires

Usyk isn't ready to fight until sometime next year. who knows when

 

Joshua is ready for the taking that’s why. Fury really does want to retire but doesn’t want to miss out on the Joshua pay day. Why wait for Joshua to rebuild and himself get older?

 

The fact Hearn apparently agreed to 40/60 is important.
When in the history of the universe has Hearn agreed to a split like that with AJ?
They've been pushing people around from the beginning with their Sky/Matchroom money power.
You would have expected at least some argument about AJ's PPV worth and brand and whatever.
But no. Hearn accepts a split like that for the biggest fight in British History etc.?

It must mean he is very worried about AJ's trajectory at this point and thinks this is likely the best deal they'll ever get for that fight now. Another loss for AJ and it's down to 30/70, or that could even happen if Fury beats Usyk and has all the belts. If Fury fights Usyk back to back it would be a year or so before an AJ fight could even happen, so that's two maybe three fights AJ has to win in a row to avoid another loss in this period and he won't be allowed to fight complete bums due to the money behind the shows.

As for Fury, he's a loose cannon and probably wants to rub this in the face of Usyk and/or taunt AJ-Hearn from a position of control now. Warren would also like that, as he's been beneath the status of Hearn for a while, but his grooming of Fury has finally paid off in the long game. He knows he out-hustled Hearn with the acquisition of Fury, all those footsies under the table at Hennessy pressers etc. And Warren and Fury obviously want the big cash before the fight loses more money.

BUT I think Hearn is in a decent position here because Warren and Fury are overconfident these days, particularly Fury. If AJ goes into that fight with a 'nothing to lose' mentality now he's been disgraced a bit, it could make him more dangerous. Fury needs to be very careful in this fight.

 

The Fury camp must be supremely confident that Fury will win this. Or at least Fury himself. That's the only way it makes sense. If it really is a serious offer, which we yet have to see with Fury changing his mind about dates and whatnot.

For Joshua it makes a lot of sense. Also hard to back down when Fury has called him out.

 

Yeah. Assuming, for argument's sake, that Fury-Joshua is being earnestly negotiated and the noises we're hearing aren't just bilateral posturing, I think the risk of the matchup being further debased and devalued by a fourth Joshua defeat — which could quite conceivably come at the hands of someone much less celebrated than Usyk, as we saw with the Ruiz debacle — would be at the root of it for both parties.

Reminds me of a comment Frank made about old man Hearn in the Clash of the Titans episode on the Eubank-Benn rivalry, "But, y'know, it all came back on him..."

 

You notice the same thing before he fought Wilder the first time. A flurry of activity for the first time since he started making money.

Perhaps this is his way to get his conditioning right, his timing sharp, etc. Signals to me he might be planning to box with Usyk.

 

Why?

Ask Warren and Hearn

 

It's a good fight
as boxing fans we should support regular good fights

not support delays in the hope of some ' perfect order ' falling into place.

 

It’s lost it’s appeal to a point now but still a decent match up. It would be nice to see AJ rebound first and bring some intrigue back if he can win in good fashion. I can’t see it happening, we probably get Fury - Usyk next year then some splintering of the belts as both bring the curtain down on their careers.

 

Why ?

Because Usky lost his balls