Tyson Fury already starting the mind games! everyone thinks he is out of shape Joshua included

Dafty.

 

Its just a joke man

 

To be fair Fury has had mental health issues outside of the ring. But not in the ring on fight night .
I've never seen him lack confidence, self belief , or fighting heart in a fight. In fact he's the total opposite. There's no quit in Fury whatsoever which means he's mentally very strong once he's in the ring.
On the other hand AJ has quit mentally in the ring which shows weakness of mind.
As a result I honestly believe AJ's simply not the fighter he once was.

 

I thought he spit out his mouth piece to allow for a few more seconds to recover. Then again Joshua was getting destroyed. Maybe he did quit. Wouldn't be surprised. I will say that although wilder is a delusional hypejob, He was willing to die in that ring against Fury. I can respect that.

 

Fury’s current aesthetic is bewildering as (between flogging gypsy king merchandise to death) he posts training and nutrition videos on Instagram everyday. If his routine and diet are to be believed, then he just has really really appalling genetics. If it wobbles, it’s fat

 

Fury has never lacked confidence...yet took steroids to win??? Please explain. Also, if he had confidence, he would have taken the AJ fight instead of the Wilder fight years ago when offered. Again, please explain

 

All be it one with elements of truth lol

 

Well Joshua doesn’t exactly have the best track record vs fat fighters lol. Seriously though, Fury is just naturally a really tubby guy. He’s always going to have a bit of love handles even if he’s in good condition. He’s probably around 280lbs in that video and he’ll show up to the fight at around 270lbs.

 

All fighters have confidence just stepping in a ring you donut

 

Let's frame this from a different perspective. Say AJ is fighting Ruiz as the challenger, his first shot at a title, doesn't have millions of dollars in his bank account, isn't a huge draw. Does he quit? I don't think so. I think AJ understood he didn't have it that night. Took a calculated risk. As it stands, it looks like a risk that may pay off in the end. I don't think his performance shows mental weakness. I think it revealed a level of laziness. He thought it would be an easy fight. Once it didn't go as planned, instead of getting to work, he quit.

 

Sorry, i should have been a little clearer on my comments re AJ quitting as my very strong opinion and not a fact - I didn't intend to state it as a fact because only AJ can ever truly answer that.

For me it wasn't just the mouth piece being spat out to suggest he quit, as you rightly pointed out that it can be used as a pro tactic to gain valuable seconds. It was his general demeanour and body language when seemingly reluctant to leave the corner and walk forward to let the ref know he truly wanted to carry on. AJ never gave out any positive indications that he wanted to.
I thought he did'nt want to continue. The Ref who was just inches away from him and the best person qualified thought he did'nt want to continue and some of the ringside pundits thought he did'nt want to continue.
After the fight it was also Andy Ruiz's opinion that AJ did'nt want to continue.
We'll never truly know for sure but in my mind he did quit.

RE Wilder V Fury 2, yep i totally agree he wanted to carry on and go out on his shield. No doubts in my mind about that.
What's transpired since is just a total disgrace though. Enough said.

 

I stated in my post that "to me", Fury has never showed any sign of mental weakness, lack of confidence or lack of fighting heart in any of his fights on fight night, in the actual fight under battle conditions that i can remember.
Obvious examples of his mental strength and tenacity under actual fight conditions are He's been on the canvas 4 (?) times so far in his career and got up to win or draw. In doing that he showed strong mindness and fighting heart.

He got a terrible cut/s and lost rounds to Wallin but carried on and undeniably won the fight. Again it shows a fighters heart and strength of mind regardless if it was a hard nights work for Fury or not. that's irrelevant, the point I'm discussing here is his mental strength in the fight and not his performance skills on the night.

The fact that he never faced AJ earlier in his career in my opinion is absolutely not one of lack of confidence on Furys part. I could say the exact same thing regarding AJ at that time, that he did'nt really want the Fury fight. There's a myriad of reasons why fighters don't make fights at a given time. politics, money, promotors. broadcasters , career tactics, the list goes on.

Regarding his confidence and general mindset outside of the ring over the years, i can only say that Furys confidence level was just the tip of the iceberg. Fury's been a total train wreck for periods of time with his mental health and drink/drug issues and the PEDS allegation ( which was disgraceful). I'm certainly not dismissing or condoning any of this as any form of PEDs use is cheating, plain and simple.

The whole point of my post was I've never seen Fury lacking in a mental capacity in any of his 31 fights, on the actual night, in battle condition's so far.

You're entitled to your opinion of which i do respect but mine differs to yours

 

I like your opinion and analogy on why AJ quit the fight that night. It could well have been a calculated laziness thing as you've said. I don't personally think it was calculated thinking though. IMO I think it was just a simple natural reaction of the flight or fight built into all of us. AJ chose Flight...Which to me shows a lack of mental strength and self belief that's absolutely essential in a fighter, especially at elite level.
As a result of the first Ruiz fight and watching AJ's 2 fights after that, to me there's indications that AJ is not the same fighter mentally.
Only time will tell.

 

If he is mentally weak, why didn't he fold against Wlad? To my point, he had something to gain by defeating Wlad. He knew what to expect going into that fight. The Ruiz fight caught him by suprise. Instead of digging deep and putting that work in, he simply said I'll come back later with a different game plan.