Tyson Fury could barely land a glove on Wladimir Klitschko? Where exactly was the masterclass?

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  1. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    LGBT boxing fans will make any dishonest excuse they can vis a vis Fury to defend their metrosexual idol Wlad.
     
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  2. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did you watch the whole fight or it was too boring so you stopped after 2 rounds? Lol
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    How can it be Wlad who was more aggressive when it was Fury moving forward throwing more punches?

    Wlad just responded the big robot
     
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  4. On The Money

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    Fury never really wanted to go toe to toe with WK, did he? Was mostly clowning and jigging about, feet rarely planted, was more show than blows. All in it needed a second fight to resolve and probably three.
     
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  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Im speechless

    You genuinely believe that Wlad was not the home fighter? Wow
     
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  6. Guerra

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    I was in the stadium that night. I can guarentee you he was the home fighter. K2 event in Germany was a massive home event for Wlad and Vitali when they fought.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If you think Wlad was the aggressor in this round you DKSAB

    An entire minute without throwing a punch just clinching. The first punch he throws and lands is the right hand and the crowd goes crazy.

    He's a clinching BUM. BIG STIFF IDIOT. THE MOST OVERRATED CHAMPION EVER. He could land his best right hand on Fury and Fury would eat it up.
     
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  8. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Fun fact: despite a degree of hometown bias, Wlad's judges didn't unanimously give him A SINGLE round #masterclass

    [url]https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Wladimir_Klitschko_vs._Tyson_Fury[/url]
     
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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    "he hasn't thrown a punch yet, what do we do?!?!"

    231 punches thrown by compubox.. I don't think that's even correct for Wlad.

    Also just rewatched round 1, this bum big stiff robot dosser tried to elbow Fury in the face. more dirty tactics from the useless.
     
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  10. Luis Fernando

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    It's not about 'beliefs', it's facts!

    1) Wladimir Klitschko was born in Ukraine, Kiev and not Germany.

    2) Wladimir Klitschko's bouts play the Ukrainian anthem pre-fight, not the German anthem.

    3) Wladimir Klitschko is Slavic, not Germanic. So not only is he not German ethnically, but he is further from being a German than Fury is who is a Germanic Brit.

    So yes, FACTUALLY, Wladimir Klitschko is not German. Deal with it!

    Oh and in case you say Wladimir Klitschko speaks fluent German. Guess what? He also speaks fluent English and Russian? That doesn't make him any more Russian or English or a 'HOME FIGHTER' in those countries than it does in Germany. It only tells us about Wladimir Klitschko being intelligent + willing enough to be able to learn multiple languages and be a polyglot.

    And in case you also say "Germany is where Wladimir Klitschko grew up, boxed his entire life in and is his adopted home". Guess what also? Fury could have also made Germany his adopted home too, learnt the German language and gained a fanbase there like Wladimir Klitschko. Now who's fault is it that Fury is too dense, or unwilling, or both to ever be successful outside a NON-ENGLISH country as Wladimir Klitschko outside of his REAL home that is UKRAINE? It's Fury's fault! So Fury doesn't somehow get extra-credit for an 'AWAY' victory in Germany against Wladimir Klitschko because he himself wasn't intelligent enough, or willing enough, or both to have also learnt the German language, to gain a German fanbase and make Germany his adopted home.

    So the more you examine this claim of "Wladimir Klitschko is a 'HOME FIGHTER' in Germany, the more ridiculous it sounds.

    Now had Fury beaten Wlad in Ukraine, nobody could turn around and say "OH BUT FURY COULD HAVE ALSO CHOSE TO BE BORN IN UKRAINE OR CHOSE TO HAVE BEEN AN ETHNIC UKRAINIAN". No, that'd be an indisputable AWAY victory for Fury, but not the case in Germany which is as neutral a territory as there is for a bout of such a magnitude between such boxers.
     
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  11. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Most Barcelona players were born elsewhere but play at home in Spain ala Barca

    Its quite easy to adopt a home countrty in that manner
    Deal with that
     
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  12. Heavy_Hitter

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    So Fury's resume is so horrible? His best win is a 40 year old big stiff idiot? Lol
    And his second best win is a clumsy idiot Wilder, who got outboxed by one of the weakest hw boxers of all time Arthur Shpilka.
     
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  13. Luis Fernando

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    Last time I checked, Barcelona is part of Spain OFFIICIALLY. Ergo, natives of Barcelona / Catalunya are 'SPANISH' OFFICIALLY. Ergo, your argument is a false equivalence logical fallacy.

    [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence[/url]

    What was stopping Fury from ALSO adopting a non-English foreign country like Germany then? NOTHING! So he doesn't get extra-credit for something Wladimir Klitschko accomplished that he has not.
     
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  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Its very easy to set up your business/headquarters elsewhere from where you originated

    Which is what Wlad did

    He made his money in Germany and made people in Germany money

    His challengers did not

    That makes Germany his adopted home country at least business wise/sporting occasions

    Its why its an impressive victory on Furys part

    Your clearly not going to agree so have a nice day
     
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  15. JunlongXiFan

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    Klitschko was born in Kazakhstan, USSR to Russian and Ukrainian parents. Not in Ukraine. You clearly don’t know enough about Klitschko to be debating this.
     
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