Tyson Fury could barely land a glove on Wladimir Klitschko? Where exactly was the masterclass?

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're completely deluded and wrong. the mental gymnastics required not to accept Vlad as the home fighter iin Germany s almost impressive. It maybe time to check in with your Doctor as your "medication" is no longer effective.
     
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  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except he never 'ORIGINATED' in Germany. He went to Germany at a certain age. Guess what? Fury could have also done the same thing. That he didn't, is his own problem / fault and he doesn't somehow get extra credit for being an 'AWAY' fighter in Germany when he could have done what Wladimir Klitschko also did, which was to learn the German language and earn a fanbase there. None of these feats are metaphysical feats. It's just a case of Fury not being willing enough / being too lazy so that's a negative mark against him.
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Point out where I stated Klitschko was BORN in Ukraine, thank you very much.

    You just said it yourself, he was born to a UKRAINIAN parent. ERGO, he is Ukrainian ETHNICALLY. Or at least part Ukrainian ETHNICALLY.

    Whereas when it comes to Germany, nor can you say Wladimir Klitschko was born in Germany, neither can you say he is ETHNICALLY German. So whatever way you twist it, he is as far away from being a 'GERMAN' and a 'HOME FIGHTER' in Germany as is Tyson Fury.
     
  5. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    I think your talking complete bollocks but as i mention you've made your mind up so won't continue to debate with you
     
  6. frank jaeger

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    Compubox is not a computer it's a man ringside counting punches he thinks landed, why people think compubox is accurate beyond me it's just a gauge and has a high tolerance it's not particularly accurate.

    Having watched the fight slowed down and gone over punches needed to double or multiple check if landed I can confirm with absolute certainty the following punch stats. ( I obviously have a advantage over ringside punch count im not being disrespectful I would be way off too trying to do live from one angle)

    Klitschko

    Punches landed 73
    Jabs to head 38
    Jabs to body 13
    Power to head 21
    Power to body 1

    Fury

    Landed 72
    Jabs to head 23
    Jab to body 14
    Power to head 14
    Power to body 21

    Any punch not a jab is a power punch but in this fight alot of power punches was no harder than a jab or even softer so I recorded solid punches from both men in fight, this being a solid hard jab or solid power shot.

    Klitschko landed 22

    Fury landed 12
     
  7. frank jaeger

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    Klitschko landed 73 to Fury 72, I have watched fight slowed down and know for certainty, he also landed more harder punches.
     
  8. frank jaeger

    frank jaeger New Member banned Full Member

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    Luis you are absolutely right and it's beyond me why people have Fury winning easy, most likely the perception of Wlad being dominant big puncher and Fury being the guy that punched himself in face and out of shape often, clowns alot. So when Fury could stay away from Wlad punches look comfortable make Wlad think and then hands behind back it shocked people and that became the focus, Fury completely controlled the narrative and not by accident.

    Now if you can be objective which most people can't Klitschko won that fight.

    I have watched that fight slowed down 3 times to get an accurate punch count and watched multiple times in normal speed so can see the effectiveness of what both guys doing. The punch stats are definitive below, I scored only landed punches with knuckles not touching with glove probing and measuring that's not punching just touching with glove and do not count illegal blows such as rabbit punching.

    Klitschko landed 73
    Jabs to head 38
    Jabs to body 13
    Power head 21
    Power body 1

    Tyson landed 72
    Jabs to head 23
    Jab to body 14
    Power head 14
    Power body 21

    Anything not a Jab is down as a power punch but in truth, a lot of the power punches were no harder or even softer than a jab, so I recorded solid punches landed by both guys and can answer your question.

    Klitschko landed 22

    Fury landed 14

    I will even list the solid punches landed by both guys.

    Rd1. 1 solid Jab head, Klitschko countering a Fury Jab.

    1 Solid Jab Fury

    Rd2 2 solid Jab head, 1 solid Jab body, 1 Solid left hook to head at end of round. Klitschko

    2 Solid Jabs to head Fury, 1 he looked like tried shifting into unorthodox for a left cross but didn't quite get it was square feet and shoulders when threw and landed stiff Jab.

    Round 3. Nothing

    Round 4. 1 Solid Right hand Fury moved into as throwing his own at end of round. ( Best punch landed of fight for me) Klitschko.

    Round 5. 3 Solid Jabs to head, 2 lead counter right hands to head, (Fury did move and take some of these but still landed solid enough to snap his head round) Klitschko.
    Klitschko is cut in this round by head clash.

    Round 6. 2 Hard Jabs to Head, 1 Solid Left cross to head. Fury

    1 Solid Jab to body. Klitschko.

    Round 7. 2 Solid Jabs to head. Fury

    Round 8. 2 Solid Jabs to head Klitschko.

    Round 9. 1 Right Cross, 1 Solid Jab to head near end of round. Klitschko

    1 Solid left hook. Fury ( punch of fight contender)

    Round 10 2 Hard Jabs Klitschko. ( Like all Klitschko hard jabs in this fight this snapped Fury's head, Fury got this round on all 3 scorecards which is beyond me Klitschko outlanded Fury 10-3 and landed the only solid punches.

    Round 11

    3 Solid left hooks Fury

    Round 12

    2 Solid right crosses head, 2 Solid left Hook head. Klitschko

    1 Solid Left uppercut head, 1 solid right hook to body, Fury.

    Fury Uppercut and Klitschko left hook to Fury on ropes possibly best punches of fight.

    I scored the fight.

    Round 1. Fury 10-9
    Round 2. Klitschko 10-9
    Round 3. Fury 10-9 ( being generous to Fury this was a nothing round very even)
    Round 4 Klitschko 10-9
    Round 5 Klitschko 10-9
    Round 6 Fury 10-9
    Round 7 Fury 10-9
    Round 8 Klitschko 10-9
    Round 9 Fury 10-9
    Round 10 Klitschko 10-9
    Round 11 Even 9-9
    Round 12 Klitschko 10-9

    114-113 Klitschko.

    Round 9 and 3 are closest to score, for me Fury gets Rd 9 with the left hook which was more effective punch in round. Round 3 really probably should be even I've given Fury benefit here, I can see that round even and a 115-113 Score to Klitschko.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  10. piprules

    piprules Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol 3x the amount of power punches…. So that was like 3 power punches the whole fight?
    Total schooling
     
  11. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on!

    I'd rather re-watch Calzaghe v Hopkins than Wlad v Fury, and that was a real stinker, but at least it had some actual action!
     
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  12. KINGWILDER

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    Wlad was rubbish but to deny the fact Fury put on one of the most slippery and elusive heavyweight boxing displays of the modern era would be unfair. It was an excellently thought out game plan which was highly effective. For me it’s just his best performance from a pure boxing standpoint (and when considering the level of opposition).
     
  13. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The OP starts off wrong with his viewpoint....
    No one thinks Fury landed loads of punches it wasn't that type of fight....What happened that Wlad as the home fighter and champion with a string of defenses was expected to use his jab and straight right that had worked so often to beat Fury.... He didn't get chance to

    By this stage of his career Wlad's offence relied on the jab and Fury leaned, weaved and made sure as often as he could it didn't land. His own height and reach allowed him to touch Wlad with his own jab and through the early rounds there was only really one way you could score many of them and that was to Fury... Later in the fight we saw Wlad for the first time in a long time get confused in the ring such was Fury's movement.

    In the final couple of rounds Wlad realised he was going to have to open up and take chance and landed the best of his punches but by that point he was so far down on the cards he needed KD's or KO's so although he landed some good punches they were mainly in a couple of late rounds.

    The punch stats should be close it was tight at times awkward fight. Fury landed a lot of tame body shots in the clinch they weren't brilliantly hard but they were on the scoring area much of the time so should count as a landed punch.

    Wlad was expected to dominate, he had the ring set his way - remember the foam etc. but come fight night Fury did something few heavy's have really done for awhile was hit and not get hit. It's an excellent win against a fighter who was a dominant champion even thought it wasn't the most action packed fight.

    Wlad would show he still had a bit left in the after with AJ but rightly called time on his career.

    Some people with some very one sided opinions in this thread if you can't debate why post.

    Weirdly in a big title fight the official score cards were probably about right with Fury winning by a couple of points.
     
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