I am warming up to Tyson Fury. He's young. Strong. Got tons of heart. Pacing his career well........... BUT.......WTF is he doing deadlifting this kindof weight. He's not 6'0 280. He's 6'9 260. He needs to work on his legs, traps, bi's, tri's, and chest. Could uses a little extra work on his lat's as well as his abs, but those are not really important other than for cosmetic purposes.:think
2.5-3 is not 3? It INCLUDES 3 doesn't it? It means some of them do 2.5 times their bodyweight and some do 3 times their bodyweight and some do inbetween. Otherwise I could write "I press 1.5-4 times my bodyweight" and not be lying provided I can do 1.5 times. And anyone DLing 200kg at a bodyweight of 75kg is very good. As I said the lower weight guys will do more, but seeing as your criticism of Fury was that he should be doing 2.5-3 times his weight to be considered "good" they are not that key. If a man of his size was doing 3 times his weight then he would be a professional standard powerlifter, in the top 1% of people who lift weights for fitness. So how many guys down your gym are doing 3 times their bodyweight? 2.5 is very impressive for a someone who does not compete in any way so kudos to the 75kg at your gym.
Dead lifting is actually one of the best methods to add general strength and thus quite useful for boxers. Like squats, cleans and other multi-joints exercises. Much better than any curls or tricep extensions IMO. But Fury should learn the right technique before he really hurts himself.
Bollocks. It depends how much you weigh and it is relative to what you do. 2.5 times is not good for someone who is a ****ing powerlifter, but it is great for anyone who just works out and lifts as a hobby. 3 times is ****ing outstanding and very few people will ever get to that level.
Ummm,Mayweather DOES do weights, a quick trip to youtube would prove that. A number of lighter weight fighters mightn't becaiuse they need to stay within a certain weight. Tyson himself has said "many times" he didnt lift before prison? Any clips of him saying that,or interviews where he said that? Because I think its complete garbage
Really? So unless Tyson is deadlifting around 325 kg-ish it isnt even considered good? Haye has deadlifted 300kg or so,but he is exceptionally strong for his size and he also isnt 6'9
havent touched weights for 2 years (feels so good oh my god) but for me he is doing it wrong and risking injury [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nRRlk6264I[/ame]
May I ask you where do you train? Maybe dead lifting is not a big part of training over there. It is usually considered good if you bench press 1.5, squat 2 and dead lift 2.5 times your bodyweight. Of course this is easier for a small guy than a big one. And I still want to repeat. I dont think it is necessary for boxer to be able to lift that much. Definitely most of them can not do it. But I dont think that 250 is so special for a guy who weighs 115kg and is supposed to be a top athlete. And it seems that he is not even lifting it all the way from the floor but from some kind of rack. Anyway it is nice to see that this really impress many people so much.
I agree with everything else you posted, but while deadlifts are fine and well, the way he is doing them isn't. He is begging to blow out his back with that form and potentially ruin his career, and all for the sake of stroking his ego a bit. I would personally lay off going that heavy, as there is precious little benefit as ooposed to the harm it could do. Lifting intelligently is great for boxing, but lifting like that is asking for trouble.
He is 6'9" tall, that's the key here. Tall men traditionally struggle with squats and deadlifts because of their long legs and long backs. Phil Pfister for example, one of the strongest men in the WSM competition before he retired, always struggled with deadlifts, despite being excellent at many other events, and he was 3" shorter than Fury. There are exceptions like Brian Shaw, but historically, tall men battle with deads and squats. I still think it's impressive, no matter what people say.
Actually this is not true. It is not about height, it is about arm length. If you have long arms and short legs you are usually good in deadlift. But if you have long legs and torso and short arms you are not. Many good deadlifters are tall. For example Gary Heisey was 200 cm and dead lifted 420kg. It is more often that if you are good in bench press you struggle in deadlift and vice versa.
I agree with you about it being unnecessary for a boxer. As to me, I just workout at a local gym. I've only been back at it for 5-6 months after not really doing any proper working out for years. I'm far from strong, but I know what is considered to be good by most organisations, trainers etc and a person just lifting and not competing or training as a pro athlete who deads 2.5 times their weight is very good. 3 times is ****ing awesome. I agree that Fury's lift is not spectacular and more importantly his technique is horrible and risks injury. But saying that nothing below 2.5 times your weight is good is just not true. Twice your weight and you are considered pretty strong by most standards and Fury is doing more than twice his weight as a guy who is pretty much a novice to lifting. Most importantly, though, it is not really something he should be focusing on. Although at least he is actually working out, which is a nice change from his early career.
Yeah deadlift is actually one of the only weight lifting things where being tall is not necessarily a disadvantage. It ABSOLUTELY is in squats and invariably bench too. Short arms and legs are great for bench and squats. You only need look at the build of the best Olympic lifters and the best powerlifters for squats and bench to see that.