Tyson Fury disgraced the sport of boxing, but Anthony Joshua redeemed it

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  1. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Completely agree that Ngannou Is a terrific human being. How can you not like him?!! What he's achieved, from where he came from is incredible.
    However, I strongly disagree with the idea that Fury is one of the best ever. He has not proven that. Not even close really. And even if you do think so, you'd have to accept he took the Francis fight incredibly lightly ... which helped the Ngannou rollercoaster continue for longer than it should have. This kind of hyperbole doesn't help anyone.
     
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  2. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    There is a big difference between being "capable of boxing" and being good enough at boxing to get the opportunities that would pay better than what you would make at equivalent level in MMA.

    You could easily flip the script on this narrative. 99% of boxers out there would be in a better position financially and fame/exposure wise if they were UFC stars than boxers. Not everyone is Canelo or AJ.


    Except the ones that have. Wasnt Lucas Browne ranked in the top 10 at one point? Dillian Whyte was in MMA before boxing too. Jarrell Miller was a kickboxer who couldnt beat a 40 year old Cro Cop who had just been cut from the UFC atfer getting KO'd multiple times in a row.


    You've got it the wrong way round. MMA is vastly more technically deep than boxing, thats basic common sense to anyone that has a clue what they're watching. Think about it, which sport has more "pieces", more potential routes to victory etc etc...

    Yeah its not like MMA has more (and usually more clean) KOs than boxing...

    I think you're seriously underestimating the damage that "bending someones arm behind their back" can inflict too.

    That novice Youtube boxer just knocked out a 17-2 boxer in the first round, and did the same thing to a 10-1 guy before that. Do you think a "novice Youtube MMA fighter" couldnt embarrass cherry picked former boxing champions in MMA if he was the A side and shot caller and got to do things on his terms the way Jake does?
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think N'Gannou might find it hard to get any good boxing fights now. It will be a bit no win since he was seemingly exposed by Joshua. The money has to be really good and i don't kbow that they will be.
     
  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think Joshua deserves much credit at all for this fight, there's no reason in the world to even suspect that this guy could give him even a hint of a challenge. Ngannou stood right in front of Joshua with a big neon sign on his forehead saying please hit me . His left hand was so low that Joshua should have landed a big right hand immediately in the fight. I know the heavyweight greats of old and not so greats would have taken Francis out of there within about 30 seconds. They both looked slow, plodding and unimaginative, circling around each other like Big Stiff statues that barely know how to box . It was just ridiculous. Super low quality skill level crap that would have disgusted the greats of old.

    There now I feel better.
     
  5. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you, Tyson Fury, for looking like such an embarrassment against Ngannou or this fight would have never happened.

    I'm looking forward to Joe Rogan's response about this fight. He really slandered boxing after Fury-Ngannou.
     
  6. Camps

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    Agreed. AJ was able to put his entire body into that straight right and was able to land it just where he wanted to on an all-too-accommodating Ngannou. It really showed the difference in experience. Ngannou showed AJ a surfeit of respect but didn't match that up with a well-trained gameplan to avoid and duck punches. By comparison, against Fury he seemingly threw caution to the wind and it worked out quite a bit better for him.
     
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  7. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get that you are saying things and that you have an opinion but I will just leave this here to do my talking
    https://youtube.com/shorts/hlDbcumBNDU?si=eAmy_5MVTMOy29M2
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Get real ROFLMAO All AJ did was KO an MMA fighter with an 0-1 pro boxing record in the second round.
    Wasn't too long ago y'all were ridiculing him when he got destroyed himself by an overweight supposed easy touch lol
     
  9. TMLT87

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  10. T.S.

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    Big congrats to Anthony Joshua sending message to MMA Stay in your lane!
     
  11. TMLT87

    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    MMA didnt kick down boxings door, boxing opened the door and invited it in. Blame boxing for sacrificing its integrity to try and jump on the star power and fanbases of MMA guys and Youtubers.
     
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  12. T.S.

    T.S. T.Stout Full Member

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    Fair enough but thanks to AJ for knockin the mofo out!
     
  13. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I normally would blame Floyd but its deeper than that. Boxings deep problem with multiple belts, corruption and no governing body to control the alphabet organisations created this mess in which it allowed mma and joke youtube fights to grow. Boxing's status decreased so much that a joke mike tyson vs jake paul fight would outsell canelo vs crawford for example or usyk vs fury.
     
  14. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Has Joe Rogan come out of his hole yet? Is he in hiding?
     
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  15. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    *Destroyed