Tyson Fury disgraced the sport of boxing, but Anthony Joshua redeemed it

Francis kinda dug his own grave with his performance against Fury. Ref probably shoulda called it after KD2. It was kinda messed up seeing a boxing novice get put to sleep that brutally. I guess that happens to journeyman all the time and they don't get paid $20M...

 

When Champions of different disciplines in combat sport face each other is not in the same league as YouTubers facing trained fighters in the terms of mismatches, it highlights the disregard that mma fighters have for technique and defence when it comes to punching, iam happy to keep watching these sloppy individuals underestimate the art of boxing and get the punishment they deserve. They like to refer to the fact they would destroy the boxers in the cage and the difference is no boxer can prove anything in a cage, they would 100 percent get beat but they would be going against everything that boxing is about.
Any mma fighter who was capable of boxing would not be involved in mma it’s that simple.
So no mma fighter will ever fight journey men and work their way up the ranks because if they were capable of being boxers then they would be boxers.
Mma is a scrappy, erratic, desperate, emotionally charged wild sport.
Boxing is a disciplined, refined, strategic war of attrition.
If boxing is chess then mma is connect four.
If boxing is the New York Times then mma is the beano.
If you want to break it down further, there’s not a fighter alive who would rather win a fight by bending someone’s arm behind their back over a clean knockout and also there’s no fan out there who would see a fight end like that.
Novice YouTube boxers are destroying former mma champions, I think that anyone who is a champion in a sport called mixed martial arts with no professional experience boxing is their fault and no one else’s, and if they haven’t prepared for a fight with a boxer that they have clearly sought out (no boxer looks to fight with a mma fighter) then that’s their responsibility.

 

This is obviously a boxing forum so I won't get drawn into this too much. But I've been a boxing fan since the mid 90s and watched MMA since 2002. I'm pretty comfortable with my opinion.

 

Completely agree that Ngannou Is a terrific human being. How can you not like him?!! What he's achieved, from where he came from is incredible.
However, I strongly disagree with the idea that Fury is one of the best ever. He has not proven that. Not even close really. And even if you do think so, you'd have to accept he took the Francis fight incredibly lightly ... which helped the Ngannou rollercoaster continue for longer than it should have. This kind of hyperbole doesn't help anyone.

 

There is a big difference between being "capable of boxing" and being good enough at boxing to get the opportunities that would pay better than what you would make at equivalent level in MMA.

You could easily flip the script on this narrative. 99% of boxers out there would be in a better position financially and fame/exposure wise if they were UFC stars than boxers. Not everyone is Canelo or AJ.

Except the ones that have. Wasnt Lucas Browne ranked in the top 10 at one point? Dillian Whyte was in MMA before boxing too. Jarrell Miller was a kickboxer who couldnt beat a 40 year old Cro Cop who had just been cut from the UFC atfer getting KO'd multiple times in a row.

You've got it the wrong way round. MMA is vastly more technically deep than boxing, thats basic common sense to anyone that has a clue what they're watching. Think about it, which sport has more "pieces", more potential routes to victory etc etc...

Yeah its not like MMA has more (and usually more clean) KOs than boxing...

I think you're seriously underestimating the damage that "bending someones arm behind their back" can inflict too.

That novice Youtube boxer just knocked out a 17-2 boxer in the first round, and did the same thing to a 10-1 guy before that. Do you think a "novice Youtube MMA fighter" couldnt embarrass cherry picked former boxing champions in MMA if he was the A side and shot caller and got to do things on his terms the way Jake does?

 

Think N'Gannou might find it hard to get any good boxing fights now. It will be a bit no win since he was seemingly exposed by Joshua. The money has to be really good and i don't kbow that they will be.

 

I don't think Joshua deserves much credit at all for this fight, there's no reason in the world to even suspect that this guy could give him even a hint of a challenge. Ngannou stood right in front of Joshua with a big neon sign on his forehead saying please hit me . His left hand was so low that Joshua should have landed a big right hand immediately in the fight. I know the heavyweight greats of old and not so greats would have taken Francis out of there within about 30 seconds. They both looked slow, plodding and unimaginative, circling around each other like Big Stiff statues that barely know how to box . It was just ridiculous. Super low quality skill level crap that would have disgusted the greats of old.

There now I feel better.

 

Thank you, Tyson Fury, for looking like such an embarrassment against Ngannou or this fight would have never happened.

I'm looking forward to Joe Rogan's response about this fight. He really slandered boxing after Fury-Ngannou.

 

Agreed. AJ was able to put his entire body into that straight right and was able to land it just where he wanted to on an all-too-accommodating Ngannou. It really showed the difference in experience. Ngannou showed AJ a surfeit of respect but didn't match that up with a well-trained gameplan to avoid and duck punches. By comparison, against Fury he seemingly threw caution to the wind and it worked out quite a bit better for him.

 

I get that you are saying things and that you have an opinion but I will just leave this here to do my talking
https://youtube.com/shorts/hlDbcumBNDU?si=eAmy_5MVTMOy29M2

 

Get real ROFLMAO All AJ did was KO an MMA fighter with an 0-1 pro boxing record in the second round.
Wasn't too long ago y'all were ridiculing him when he got destroyed himself by an overweight supposed easy touch lol

 

Cool. A top 3 ranked boxer beat an MMA fighter in a boxing match. Well that settles it.....

 

Big congrats to Anthony Joshua sending message to MMA Stay in your lane!

 

MMA didnt kick down boxings door, boxing opened the door and invited it in. Blame boxing for sacrificing its integrity to try and jump on the star power and fanbases of MMA guys and Youtubers.

 

Fair enough but thanks to AJ for knockin the mofo out!