Tyson Fury is a spent force

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  1. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're spouting nonsense.
     
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  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Did you forget whyte in purpose?
    Yes Furys resume is pretty rubbish

    Name me one great opponent Aj has beaten other than Parker that wasn't around 40 years old?
    His resume is also s..t

    The era is sh.t to tell you the truth
     
  3. Metrics

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    Which part is nonsense?
    Fury is 35, he will be 36 at least when he next fights.
    Fury has walked around grossly over weight between fights for majority of his career.
    He struggled to defeat a 0-0 boxer.

    These are checkable facts.
     
  4. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Why would I mention a post-Povetkin Whyte who is visibly carrying permanent neurological damage? The guy's punch resistance is non-existent. There's a reason why Fury ducked him when Whyte was still unbeaten ([url]remember this, following the diamond belt nonsense from Fury?[/url]). I only ever saw Fury fans rating the Whyte fight. It was obviously such a damaged version of Whyte that nobody else rates it, quite rightly. Fury was visibly slower and more declined in that fight too.

    As for Joshua, you must be joking. I'm not even going to justify the idea with a reply, mate. That's just bad trolling. Joshua's resume is the best in the division, and it's not even close. The era is actually very good; we have many different styles, talents, and characters. It's much better than anything we've had in the last 25 years. Fury and Wilder damaged it by derailing so many fights that should have happened. While I have my reservations about the Saudis getting involved this much in boxing, they certainly make fights happen, so that's a good thing. The division is in excellent shape, mate.
     
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  5. deadACE

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    When fighters age they don't have the same attributes as they did when they were younger. Is that a fair comment?

    Over the years Fury has "struggled" with a few fighters Cunningham, Pianetta, McDermott. Not just Ngannou. Then looked good in other fights.

    Your claim that Fury is shot and spent doesn't hold water. I'm suggesting you don't know what shot looks like and I'm saying he's still elite.

    Your assertion that it was drink and drugs has played a part in his decline. I'm saying he hasn't declined as far as you say and age plus fighting style, he likes movement, is the reason he no longer looks the same.
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

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    What is Fury's prime though ? People often say "Fury isn't in his prime anymore" but they can never real pinpoint his exact so called "prime".

    People list Fury's fight vs Wilder 2 as his prime but that's a single fight lol how can a single fight be classed as a prime ? Plus Wilder is a very limited opponent with not much overall skillset apart from his lethal right hand.

    The fact is since Fury won the title off Wladimir hes only had what 9 or 10 fights in almost a decade ? And in almost half of them hes struggled and been floored numerous times. Hes had 2 good performances vs Whyte, Wilder 2, which are the only real standout performances he has against notable Heavyweights.

    So as I said it's pretty hard to actually summarise what you consider to be Fury's actual prime.

    But certainly Fury's performance vs Usyk is definitely one of his best showings in years that we do know.
     
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  7. Metrics

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    The deniers tend to fall into one or two of these three categories (there is significant overlap of categories 1 and 2):

    1. USYK FANBOYS. They feel the need to defend Usyk's legacy to the extent they have to squeeze more than maximum value out of a win over Fury. Usyk, of all people, needs no defending.

    2. FURY HATERS. Watching Fury get beat up does not quite satisfy them. They have been building the hate for so long. They need "best Fury ever" options on all future Fury losses.

    3. FURY FANBOYS. Hopeless fantasists, they believe Fury will come back and win rematch. Some believe he won the first fight! They can't face the fact that it's all over. They are living in the past.
     
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  8. Metrics

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    I'm not so interested in his prime.
    Maybe he had a crap career. He might not have had a consistent or impressive prime.

    My point is about now.

    Getting beat up by Usyk is one of his best performances in years. That only underlines my point.
     
  9. AdamT

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    It's not trolling, his resume is s..t
    Full.of old men and guys like takam, whyte, Charles, Breazele etc

    Povetkin good but near 40
    Pulev washed up near 40
    Wlad great, past 40 and already lost to Fury
    Ruiz fat and struggled with ortiz, also has knock out over Joshua
    Helenius, Ngannou and wallin are bums

    Parker good win

    The one great guy Joshua fought is usyk and maybe Parker and he is 1-2. Hardly the stuff of legends

    Fury is s..t
    Aj is sh.t
    Wilder is dog sh.t

    Usyk is very good in a terrible division
     
  10. deadACE

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    Anybody who doesn't agree with you is either a fanboy or a hater lol.
     
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  11. Justchris17

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    From starting as a pro it took him 7 years to fight klitschko then another 5 years to fight wilder who had a pulse then a further 4 years for usyk. Hardly had a hard career has he? What level has he been operating as even hughie has a higher calibre of fighters on his resume overall
     
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  12. MrPook

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    I am afraid so.
     
  13. Dynamicpuncher

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    Well you're trying to say Fury is a spent force and my argument is if he is a spent force point to me what was his actual prime then in your opinion ?

    Yes Fury lost to Usyk but it was a high quality fight in which he was leading on points until Usyk took over in the 2nd half of the fight. After breaking Furys nose and having a one sided 9th round in which Fury was in big trouble.

    I don't see how Fury losing to Usyk means hes a spent a force though ? All that means is that he lost to one of the most skillful Heavyweights of all time in a high quality fight.

    Based on Furys form in the Usyk fight he would be pretty much a favourite over most of the top 10 Heavyweights now apart from AJ.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    I think he's now cracked mentally and the next version of him that we will see is Tyson Fatty rocking up for a final cash out against Usyk.
     
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  15. Malph

    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't buy the Fury spent force theory. I don't buy a stubbed toe slowed him down against Usyk.

    Fury fought a good fight and looked the best he's looked in a long time.

    He just ran into someone a little bit better.