Tyson Fury is a spent force

Still people talk more about Fury then Usyk or any other Heavyweight. So define a Champion for me.

 

In some ways I think it's quite hard to answer. Fury has always been quite up and down, usually depending on how much of a threat he feels his opponent is. He looked terrible in McDermott 1, for example, Ngannou and even Wilder 3. Yet other times, Wilder 2 and Wlad come to mind, he seemed to raise his game and defy expectations.
My general feeling was, after Ngannou, that he was heavily declining but, again, he took Usyk very seriously and performed much better in that fight (even though I predicted he would lose). So he deserves credit for that.
However, yes, I do feel he is declining - I think it's inevitable that age and the lifestyle are catching up. But I don't have a tonne of sympathy because he avoided more meaningful fights when he had more left in the tank. Usyk and AJ should have happened years ago. But he was too cautious about protecting his 0.

 

Fury has as many fans as there are haters.
That's why more people will be talking about Fury.
Usyk has fans, but few, if any, haters.

 

I went out to the pub with tyson and it took 20 pints and 10 shots of vodka to make him touch tarmac and he was still trying to get up.

Plenty of life left

 

He gave uysk his toughest fight and on another night possibly could have finished uysk in that 6th round. He rocked him and fir the first time ever we didn't see fury step it up, the question is was that because he was over confident that he had him beat at that point (by round 6 he was dominating uysk with ease) or was it because he couldn't step it up?

It's hardly been spoken about but the weight fury came in at pointed to me he was overtrained. We know the wallin fight that everyone felt he was overtraining and lost his power as such hence the change of trainer, the uysk fight he was only 8lb above that weight and his lowest since then.
During the fight we didn't see the southpaw stance, the switch hitting we all expected or the leaning/clinching. Was that a tactical mistake or overtrained?

My biggest concern around tyson from people who know him and work with him every day that I know personally was that he hadn't been on his meds for nearly 6 months by the time the fight came round. Tyson will not train on his antidepressants and meds because he feels it dulls him and saps his drive. Obviously hand in hand with that comes the erratic behavior, thoughts etc. It was pretty obvious fight week he was in a low of a bi polar episode, his lack of interaction with the press and uysk was out of character. You'll see the next fight a different fury in my opinion for fight week and probably an 8 week camp.

As for the ngannou fight it was the exact opposite, undertrained, under prepared and sugar hill only coming in for the last 10 days (and apparently being absolutely disgusted in what he saw).

He's not done yet. He needs to bin off some of the hangers on including his dad (he was performing far better when his dad wasn't around) and get back to business.

 

It's got little to do with 'lifestyle'.
It's about wear and tear on the body (athletes ageing) and punch resistance (getting punched in the head too much).
Eating a 'clean diet' doesn't change that and not binge drinking change much either. Also, he's not a smoker.

As for Mayweather, he was clearly PEDing and became extremely defensive, same with Hopkins.
Fury lost his defence with Sugar hill, and it's harder to keep your speed up and be a hard target when you're 6'7.

 

“and on another night possibly could have finished uysk in that 6th round”

lol

 

Yeah reading some of the comments i definitely need a big rest from here. See you.

 

Buddy you will be here with the rest of us
Who are you fooling? We are stuck lol

 

We are cursed. Nqh definitely rest.

 

Yeah we are, but hey it's all a laugh at the end of the day and a good debate does no harm

Take care!