Tyson Fury is a wrecking machine walks any heavyweight in history down

Tyson Fury is very overrated. Not even top 20 HW of all time.

 

Neven Pajkic dropped him too. 1:44

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He did say Cunningham was his hardest fight and to be fair there would have been no shame to have lost to Cunningham at that stage in his career. USS Cunningham was a top class operator for a long time, albeit slightly past his best and outsized when he met Fury

 

Whereas your post has a lot of sense to it, Shaver is not on that list. His legend was not equal to his ability, and for all his vaunted power, he was not that big, has an average to poor chin, and few skills.

As for the topic, Fury will beat Joshua and joint he pantheon, but lets wait until his career is over to assess his exact spot. There is a tenancy to over and under rate the currently active, but rarely to get it right.

 

at Niagara Falls they put up signs for a reason. To keep people from going over the falls to their deaths. I am pleased as punch about his win too but.....any heavyweight in history? Nah.

 

AJ can Win by stopping Fury and also by outboxing him. Fury is not some kind of super technician many believe he is. Wilder was landing on him as many others did.

 

But not clean. He was taking force away from the punches with movement.

Flash knockdown. He was up at four or six (can't remember) more embarrassed than hurt.

He's already there. He unseated a great champion and beat his top rival (since Joshua blew it). Such greats as Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson, Larry Holmes, Wlad Klit, Floyd Patterson,etc. can't claim to have done one or the other or both. Even Joe Louis beat an inferior champion and declined to face the other black fights (Lee Q. Murray, Turkey Thompson, etc).

If he beats Joshua, he will really be in the pantheon. If he beats Joshua and manages a few defenses, he is uber-elite.

 

@catchwtboxing Cunningham was no flash knockdown, Pajkic was no flash either.
fury has shot wlad, chisora and wilder. Basically one old shot elite hw and two decent HW’s . Went life and death with bum wallin, got dropped by Pajkic and cunningham. No , he’s not Top 20 HW. If he convincingly beats AJ, then we can talk

 

AJ is not outboxing Fury. Landing punches - as Wilder did at times - is not outboxing; that's... boxing. Outboxing is dictating the pattern of the fight and getting your opponent to fight the fight you want on your terms. Wilder in 19 rounds never got remotely close to doing that, and although AJ would make a better fist of trying to impose his game plan on Fury over 12 rounds, it's way more likely Fury would dictate tactics. He has more layers to his game, better movement, WAY better footwork, better stamina to make it stick and a higher ring IQ...

 

all this “ nobody can oubox Fury” is based on what?? Wallin went at fatso and Fury had no answers. Szpilka and many others were outboxing wilder, Fury got dropped just like all other boxers did against wilder but he got up that’s all. I don’t see nothing special in Fury.

 

But you see something special in AJ?

 

AJ is a poor man’s Wlad, he’s overrated too, but not as overrated as Fury is at the moment. AJ can box and has power , he’s stiff , but stong and pretty athletic. Fury never faced good HW in his prime , that would be his first test against someone good in his prime. AJ will have no problems landing and he has power unlike walin.

 

Agree with most of what you say, but I don't think AJ will land easily, or often enough, or for long enough to get round his stamina issues. His boxing is very basic and Fury will start to read it and adjust. Fury to win the fight in the 2nd half, either racking up enough points to get the decision or a late stoppage.

 

The knockdowns are both on Youtube. They were flash knockdowns, and all the world can see as they will.

Wlad was shot? Funny then that he came back a year later to go life and death with Joshua. Wlad waked into the ring in Germany the undeniable best in the world, and walked out second best.

I will not defend Wilder, who--and let us be fair to him-- is a fraud. But appearance is more than reality, and he kept his fraud train rolling even as Joshua was derailed.

POST SCRIPT:

Just checked...up at four with Pajkic and six with Cunningham. Hardly devastating knockdowns.

 

yes Wlad was shot , he was 40 and I said he was shot right after watching his fight at msg with jennings , Fury was just not good enough to finish him , fatso stayed out of range made stupid faces occasionally landing a slap or two. That was a pathetic performance.
Flash knockdown is when you down and up right away, not after 5 or 6 , so both of those were real kd’s that he suffered against light punchers.