Reading between the lines - don't listen to Eddie Hearn, Joshua has ducked Wilder and Frank Warren/Bob Arum are the main promoters we now deal with?
That is quite funny if true and even though it seems a bit unfair to Hearn, who is a good promoter, the way he cast aside the Fury offer in September at Wembley, which they would have made good money from, because ‘we are going to Saudi for huge money’ it serves him right I’m afraid. Money grabbing parasites in this case. How many lives does Warren seem to have, he is certainly a survivor and no wonder he won’t have a bad word said about Fury, the man saved him in boxing on the world stage.
He’s also done well out of the whole situation with Fury not being allowed in the States. For a couple of years around the Wilder fights he just seemed to be a bit of a mascot following Fury around when Arum and Top Rank were his main promoters. Now he seems to have moved back in to the role of actually being his promoter again.
I find it that rather hard to believe given Fury's been working on Ngannou for quite some time, and seemingly let it slip about this "game changing" event as early as February in an Instagram post (now deleted) So what, they were just going to cancel the Ngannou fight in Saudi and fight Joshua in Wembley instead? Likely story. Ngannou was the targeted fight, just as Chisora was the year before. Fury with the fake call outs/negotiations to hide the bum fights he really wants to sell the public on.
Possibly and you are right that Fury has form of cancelling / postponing fights, whereas I don’t think AJ ever has. The point is though that for all the bravado of Hearn with me me me blahblahblah constant crap coming out of his mouth about how they were going to earn ‘massive money’, which was so vulgar and now it seems he’s out in the cold. The blokes a complete idiot, he can carry on peddling the likes of Conor Benn etc. He has made himself look such a fool. Could you imagine having him as a colleague in a professional working environment? It would be like working with Jay from the Inbetweeners.
I like the way how big mouth Fury declared he was taking a break from social media as soon as the joke fight was announced so he could focus on training for the fight. Then when he showed up at the press conference last week it looked like he had spent the entire time training with his fridge. Obviously just left Frank to fight his battles for him against anyone criticising the ridiculous event. I know it's down to the promoter to back their fighter but Frank privately must be super pissed at Fury's antics over the last few years.
In private, yeah I bet he is. But Fury has surely been his one golden ticket to remain relevant as a promoter. Not really a fan of Fury, nor his dad, or his social media presence, I can't blame him for earning serious coin for this kind of carnival fight, but he should really have been forced to relinquish the belt, instead there's some sycophantic made up title instead.
The current situation with Fury is perfect for Warren. Doesn’t really have to do anything, just picks up his % for being associated with Fury whilst someone else deals with all the logistics, promoting and any problems Fury may bring. I get the feeling Arum was happy for Fury to have his last few fights over here for the same reason… pick up his % whilst someone else deals with all the crap. It’s a form of delegating really. Arum does it for co-promotional Top Rank shows abroad. He’s happy to let Warren put on Beterbiev v Yarde or let Hearn put on Lomachenko v Campbell etc as he has none of the risk and it’s easy profit for him - just has to turn up to one press conference and then on fight night. At least he turns up too, as does Warren when Dubois is fighting on another show etc. If Hearn loses the purse bid he just sends Frank Smith as he can’t bring himself to attend a show where he isn’t the promoter and main attraction. Noticed it for quite a few fights now.
Yes it’s clear Fury’s dedication to his fridge and the local pub has been taken up a notch. At least a few notches on his belt size. Frank must be furious, but I assume he is happy for the once per year cut he gets. Fury can turn up in the shape he was for McDermott 1 and still smash the MMA wrestler to bits in a boxing ring.
That is it. Fury AJ should be in the UK really. It does a few million PPV buys and sells out Wembley. Does well for broadcasting rights around the world, and everyone earns money. SA is off kilter as they will pay anything they want without needing it to be a commercial success but you are at their mercy then. Serves Hearn right
I'm struggling with a couple of things in this thread. Firstly SA clearly don't just pay any old money for fights or the likes of Fury vs AJ or Usyk, or AJ-Fury, would have been secured by now. If Fury is only interested in cash then SA would find it. They make strategic investments to make them look good and I'm not sure boxing is the big deal we think it is. Secondly, related to that, Fury is not losing fans in droves - he might be losing boxing fans but his mainstream exposure in the last 2/3 years is way beyond what we recognise as boxing fans. It's anecdocal but I've never heard so many people talking about Fury since the Netflix doc came out, and nobody's got a bad word to say about it. They know it's all a grift but think there's some charm in it. Fury could turn up on Good Morning Britain tomorrow, charm the pants off Susanna Reid, and he'd be mainstream social media news again. Doesn't make him any better or credible as a boxer but that's the world we live in.
Fury can go and do one...bored of this dosser now. Used to like him but now even AJ has more class than him.
What was classy about his message to Eddie Chambers, his Mugabe comments, his belt-throwing or his call to boycott “their shops”?
Or trying to intimade Usyk's team, or asking people 'who the fck you talking to' backstage, or telling students he'd break their jaws.
Was meaning AJ actually fights and doesn't back down. Not really interested in what people say blah blah. Fury is a duck
