Who gives a ****. El cep has a massive chip on his shoulder about the Irish. His whole summation of this issue is entirely wrong. Someone probably asked fury what nationality he considers himself and why and he said Irish and gave his reasons, big ****ing deal. El cep decides to rant about 'being educated by us brute, marrying our women, taking our social welfare' etc etc, sounds like a ****ing member of the BNP. A lad I work with is American, has an Irish wife and was educated from second level here. He has lived here since he was 14 and has an Irish accent, I don't harass him everytime he identifies himself as American. It's pretty much the same thing. This is a pointless thread started by a pointless poster who has proven in the past that he has a chip on his shoulder about the Irish.
These things really bother people like ElCep I've noticed but don't worry, it's a two way street, you guys have great British people like Gloria Hunniford, SIR Terry Wogan, and Graham Norton
Agree, he's the type who takes issue when James McClean didn't want to wear a poppy I wouldn't wear one, and I have my own reasons
I just think Fury isn't that bright. No self respecting Irishman would support Fury (or anyone else) purely because they try and claim to be Irish. One minute he's proud as punch to be British champion, the next he's saying that the Lonsdale belt is rubbish and that he's a Paddy after all. I don't have anything against him at all, he's a proper character, and modern sports need characters more than ever these days, with the diluted nature of many sports..... especially football, where players are slated for celebrating goals against their old teams, or for any remark they make that is the slightest bit controversial. Christ knows how Brian Clough would have gone down in this era.... :yikes An Englishman pretending to be Irish is pretty lame though, irrespective of his heritage. There's a large Irish Catholic population in Leeds, and I'm probably as Irish as some of them, even played Gaelic football to a decent standard for a couple of years too, but I'd never say that I was Irish in the slightest. And nor would my grandmother, who was the granddaughter (or great granddaughter :think) of Irish immigrants following the potato famine. Aside from liking a pint of the black stuff her father didn't consider himself Irish, or associate himself with Irish culture at all either.
What is it with plastic paddies over in the states (NYC and Boston especiallu) wanking off over anybody who claims they're Irish? Bunch of dumb Americans whose Grandmother once carried a blaney stone somehow think that makes them Irish? Despite having never been to Ireland, have parents who have never been to Ireland and are about as Irish as a Yorkshire pudding.
I think refusing to wear a poppy is a tad disrespectful, but if you're an Irish republican I can understand why not. Interesting question. It does **** me off that England select players who qualify on residency for the cricket and rugby teams. It's not as if we're the only ones that do it, Wales have done it and Scotland too (not sure about Ireland) but at the end of the day, these players AREN'T English. Kevin Pietersen isn't English, and only decided to move here because of the positive discrimination that was so rife in SA at the time.... despite his mother being English. On the rugby union side, we've had Henry Paul and Lesley Vainikolo playing for us, despite both representing NZ at rugby league. At least when Ireland's football team had a fair few English born players amongst their ranks, their parents/grannies were actually Irish, they had Irish sounding names and their performances clearly gave you the impression that they wanted to do well for Ireland, rather than just being a mercenary.
I don't understand why people are so bothered/threatened by this. If they want to embrace their Irishness then let them. For some people, identity is more than just where you were born.
except tony cascarino, who qualified for ireland through his grandfather, except his mum was adopted so really he had no right to play for ireland i guess.
leave it at that then :hey there are a lot of things I find disrespectful and some of those are reasons I won't wear a poppy and its bull**** anyway, poppies shouldn't have this mandatory status, a tribute is only a tribute if its done willingly anyway, you see these TV interviews with everyone wearing poppies and its pretty clear the producers just stuck it on them beforehand ****s the point in that?
I didn't hear the end of "oh my ancestors are from Ireland", when I was in NY in January... And that was after i had told them I was Scottish! They really are clueless. Smart move from Tyson.