bless you, you seem very cross about people's opinions on boxing, this would make a boxing forum an uncomfortable environment so I understand your angst. as I said, I would happily stand by my definition and have heard this advice countless times when someone first braves stepping into the squared circle for the first time. I will continue to use this definition as I believe you can become a better boxer by building a set of skills using this definition as a basis. You do seem to have reluctantly agreed with this point somewhere within your convoluted explanation. Opinions are what make this sport great and long may subjective opinions reign.