Tyson Fury > Lennox Lewis

I don't think anyone underrates Fury, most people rate him very highly. Its just most people get a bit tired of his retirement nonsense, and want him to fight Usyk, And you don't need to keep discrediting Lewis's resume to get that point across.

As for Lewis ducking ? I really hope your not trying to say Lewis ducked Byrd. Lewis was coming towards the end of his career. And was looking for big money fights vs Tyson and etc. Byrd was stinking out the joints, and during his title reign apart from against an ancient Holyfield with a blown out shoulder, he arguably lost to Golota, McCline, Williamson, Oquendo.

 

Uve spent too much time on arcade games. Weird angles to ur nonsense....but hey ho

 

And Fury landed what....an average of 2 punches per round?? Total borefest and an example of a non fight!! Fury obviously stimulates u in ways that i dont care to know about.

Ur 'buddy' on this thread says gypsies are real fighting men.....however ur applauded version of Fury preferred NOT to fight when he faced Wlad....so u both cant be right...sort it out ffs

 

Fury could absolutely be competitive, if not prove too much for Lennox Lewis.

Fury CLEARLY has the better pure boxing skills. Lewis was outboxed at times in his career by people you wouldn't expect to go tit for tat against such a lofty ATG.

Fury CLEARLY has the better defense. Lewis has been tagged and rocked, again, by fighters you'd not expect to rock such a highly acclaimed ATG. His defense was limited and predictable, especially later in a fight, compared to someone like Fury (evidenced by him being stopped unexpectedly, twice, by lesser fighters).

Fury would have an absolute field day against most of Lennox's resume. If you thought Fury vs. Chisora II was one sided, imagine him vs. Tua. The short muscle bound plodders of the 90's that Lennox feasted on have died out in the evolution of HW boxing.

Lennox is a great fighter and a top 5 HW ATG, but we'll have to see how Fury finishes out his career. So far, he's shown many styles and many intangibles. I still don't think we've seen it all from Fury. We must remember, Lennox avenging his losses doesn't mean he didn't lose in the first place. You've got to think about why and how a fighter lost.

 

Lewis was expecting a big fight vs Mike Tyson after the Ray Mercer fight, that was the whole point of the fight to get Lewis ready for Tyson. Unfortunately Tyson's team paid Lewis to step aside so that fight didn't happen, suggesting Lewis avoided Mercer to fight a more dangerous Tyson don't really make sense.

Lewis was 39 years old and decided to call it quits after Vitali good for him, realizing he was getting old and already cemented his legacy. I wish more fighters like him had that sense.

As i've already said before Lewis was coming towards the end of his career, and was looking for a big fight vs Mike Tyson. There's difference between not fighting Byrd and "avoiding him in fear of losing to him". Yes Lewis didn't fight Byrd in favour of Tyson what's the problem here ? so your telling me Lewis's legacy, would of been better off had he not fought Tyson instead of Byrd ?

Well of course you can't fight every single fighter known to man, but Lewis pretty much fought everyone and didn't duck anyone. You could easily say the same for Fury he didn't fight Joshua, Parker, Ruiz, Povetkin, Pulev, and also didn't fight Wladimir in a rematch pulling out of that fight.

As for you bringing up Bowe and Ike really ? the same Bowe who was widely criticized for blatantly avoiding Lewis ? and Ike who went to prison for over 20 years before his career even got started ?

When was Sanders ever on Lewis's radar ? Sanders lost to Rahman in 2000, and didn't get a big win over Wladimir until Lewis was retired. That's the first time i've ever heard anyone say Lewis avoided Sanders.

As for Moorer he was asked about fighting Lewis, after he beat Holyfield this was his response "I'll fight who I want to fight, not who you want me to fight". Turned out the man he wanted to fight was a 45 year old George Foreman, who knocked him out.

 

Lewis has more title defenses against better opposition. A much greater champ than Fury. Never ducked a rematch. No made up mental issues, bad drug and eating habits. Represented the belt like a true champ, not some buffoon. H2H is debatable of course and neither man is an easy nights work for the other ATG greats. Each guy has shown they can be gotten to by lesser opposition. Fury's chin prevented him from being slept by Wilder twice. I feel safe saying that both Rahman and McCall were more skilled and fundamentally sound than Wilder. So yes, you are correct that Fury has a very solid chin. He also has luck on his side, because I've seen fights weaved off when guys went down like Fury did in the 1st Wilder fight. How do I see a fight between Lewis and Fury going. Both motivated and determined, I see Lewis getting to Fury. HLewis had that patient approach, collecting info, plotting and strategizing until he catches his opponent.

 

You telling me you believe Fury, as champ, fought better opposition than Lewis as champ.

 

Again as i stated before Lewis was preparing for a big fight vs Mike Tyson after the Ray Mercer fight, the fight fell through because Tyson's team paid Lewis to step aside. I don't see the issue ? Lewis was trying to get a fight vs a still dangerous Tyson, would you of rather of Lewis fought a rematch vs Mercer than Lewis chasing a fight vs Tyson ? Lewis fighting Tyson in 2002 has nothing to do with what were discussing here were talking about 1996.

Well that's your opinion it was a duck, i see it as a fighter who was at the end of his career and decided to call it quits. Lewis had already cemented his legacy as an ATG Heavyweight. Unlike Fury if he decided to retire today.

I know your not a mind reader but think about it logically then, Lewis was coming towards the end of his career and wanted the big money fights. Tyson had been calling out Lewis it was a massive fight to be made, and whilst you said earlier Tyson was past his best and your right about that. Still Tyson hadn't lost since 1996 to Holyfield, alot of people still gave Tyson a good shot of beating Lewis because of his one punch KO loss to Rahman. Of course it makes logical sense Lewis would fight a massive fight vs Tyson, rather than the boring non fan favourite Chris Byrd. Just imagine in an alternative universe that Lewis had fought Byrd instead of Tyson ? how widely criticized do you think Lewis would of been for ducking Tyson ? and i think his resume would of looked slightly worse overall.

Well what's the point of bringing them up then ? Lewis could of never have fought Ibeabuchi and Bowe so it's irrelevant. Ibeabuchi went to prison before his career got started, and Bowe was highly criticized for ducking Lewis and the fight never materialized, how can Lewis fight Bowe if Bowe flat out refused to fight him ? so i don't really understand the point your making. If Lewis flat out avoided both fighters then you'd have a point, but he didn't because of circumstances i mentioned above.

I said Lewis "pretty much fought everyone" which he did. Yes there's a few names here and there he didn't fight, i think your find if go back and look at most fighters in history, there's a few names that they didn't fight including Tyson Fury himself. But still Lewis fought alot of dangerous opponents, and for the most part his resume is still very solid.