Tyson Fury: "Luis Ortiz is ranked 4th with WBC, Otto Wallin is 4th with WBA. Facts. Enough Said."

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    What you’re attempting to do right now is the modern day equivalent of questioning the Tyson Ruddock rematch (Who did Ruddock beat?) while trying to class Jimmy Ellis as a good opponent for Foreman in 91.
     
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  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Ortiz’s last win was a wash of the current Boxrec #15. Wallin clocks in at 47.
     
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    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Say's a lot of the quality of the Heavyweights at the moment...very ordinary Lot.!!!
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mentioned 47 in the post he quoted

    I don’t love the fact that wilder is fighting Ortiz again but with Joshua tied up and fury fighting bums I don’t mind wilder proving a point vs a guy who gave him a tough fight
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Well there are 45 better ones for Fury to choose from.
     
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  6. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You just make things up to suit your agenda. Wallin is a European (EBU) and WBA Continental champion he has not just mysteriously climbed up the rankings but is up their on merit. Tom Schwarz had 9 defence's of WBO titles and had also earn't his ranking accordingly.
     
  7. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They do not want to fight him or demand silly money. Povetkin, Bryan, Martin and many others all refused to fight Fury. I should remind you ESPN had to guarantee Tom Schwarz $1 million to get him in the ring.
     
  8. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 28-0 WBC Peoples Champ + Lineal Full Member

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    No idea what you are talking about tbh but the fact is Ortiz hasn't beaten anyone of note...

    I don't rate Wallen either but saying he hasn't beaten anyone isn't really an arguement because Ortiz has been feed a diet of managed fighters his whole career, best win is Jennings who lived off managing to last the distance in Wlad's last career win...

    Otherwise a pretty poor Wallin type resemue...
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Only 42 others that you need to excuse.
     
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  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' booted Full Member

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    I cannot believe there are actually people trying to give credibility to this Who's Wally clown bum who is would get wiped out by any serious gym goer who could pick up a pair of gloves.
     
  11. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of the others are already scheduled to fight or under contract with other networks/promoters.
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Jennings closed out 2014 in the top 5. Ortiz kicked his ass and almost beat Wilder.

    The heavyweight contenders today aren’t knocking off guys ranked in the top 5.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    That’s a massive generalization.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

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    Fury is 28-0-1. Ortiz is 31-0-1.

    Fury's best opponents are Wilder, Hammer, Wlad, Chisora.
    Ortiz's best opponents are Wilder, Hammer, Jennings, Thompson.

    Fury didn't beat Wilder (Fury was floored hard twice). Neither did Ortiz (Ortiz was floored hard three times). Of the two of them, Ortiz gave Wilder a tougher challenge. (He nearly stopped Wilder. Fury didn't even hurt him.)

    A rational scenario would involve Ortiz and Fury fighting each other next to decide who fights Wilder in a rematch.

    And, frankly, I don't know who (Ortiz or Fury) would win. There's not a lot between them.

    Based on Joshua's four knockdown quit job against Ruiz, he doesn't deserve a title shot next, either.

    Wilder and Ruiz should be unifying next. They both won their last title fights in brilliant fashion. That's the natural match-up.

    Not all these wannabe's who can't close the show.
     
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  15. pow

    pow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about? It's a fact. Bryan refused the fight, Usyk is scheduled to fight and is a Matchroom fighter anyway and Manuel Charr is scheduled/in a legal dispute with Fres Oquendo. Joyce doesn't want the fight as he is targeting Charr's WBA regular. Who's next? Otto Wallin. It's not rocket science but you really seem to be struggling to get a grip of this.
     


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