Tyson fury - moneyball applied to boxing

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  1. The Smoking Man

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    First of all I backed fury to win and broke down exactly how the fight would go before hand so I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, I saw something in fury a long time ago

    Fury is and still is criminally underrated just like players in baseball like the moneyball system

    Fury looks ackward ,clumsy and uncoordinated and not in shape and people rip him because of that. But that's not what fury is, his actually got ridiculous speed for his size,is technically very good, has good footwork and very unorthodox. But fans never saw that because there hate for Fury blinded them or fans who can't see past aesthetics never rated him

    Eg fury looks like his in terrible shape when in fact physically his very strong very fast and has insane almost super human stamina for a man his size. But fans couldn't see past the pudgy looking traveller.

    Fury just put on a clinic and beat one of the greatest heavyweights ever and p4p top 3 easily yet I see a lot of posters still saying wilder would beat him lmfao. Keep underrating fury guys because it means more money for me at the bookies. Just like in baseball tons of fans can't look past aesthetics and criminally underrate boxers. Hughie fury is another one, I think he could be better than tyson
     
  2. Oxygene2

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    The point is, Tyson Fury has pretty great intangibles and underrated technical proficiency and options. I'm not going overboard, as he still has a LOT to prove, but last night was a great display of intangibles.
     
  3. The Smoking Man

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    Fact.

    And fury is a great person too, who else would have stuck with mock hennessey that long when I'd say everyone would have told him to jump ship. The man is as loyal as they came
     
  4. The Smoking Man

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    Yup and tons of fans couldn't look past the aesthetics. He beats any heavyweight in the world no one has a chance imo apart from Joshua in a few years
     
  5. ellerbe

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    I've always said Fury had amazing foot speed, movement, and skill+the ability to switch up to south paw, it was his defense that I underrated, and feinting.
     
  6. ellerbe

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    Wilder and JOshua would both stop Fury. Sorry guys, styles make fights.
     
  7. The Smoking Man

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    Please back wilder against fury because I want good odds at the bookies, fury beat wilder so bad it will be embarrassing
     
  8. ellerbe

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    If I were in vegas, I'd actually put money on it. I'll ban bet anyone besides you since you welched if he fights Wilder or Joshua :good. Actually I'm so confident that I'll take a one month ban bet, but this was also my prediction before the Wlad fight, "Yes definitely some credit, he's still the clear cut #1, but we all know 10-20 years from now if Fury does win it would be blown WAY out of proportion, Fury probably would duck Joshua, Wilder etc and fight the Glaskovs of the world and retire living off the Klitschko win." You think this prediction will come true?
     
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    Joshua has a great chance if he keeps developing however wilder would be fury's easiest fight ever. He would embarrass wilder
     
  10. YesMySon

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    I knew fury was special since the get go just like I knew Ward was special.

    Ever since wlad fought povetkins was when I really started to give fury a chance. i KNEW if wlad tried holding a bigger man with a longer reach like that youre going to pay, since he as more weapons than the inside.

    wlads style is made to be taller. He is not an adapter, he cannot brawl on the inside and fury exposed holes in the Eastern European school.

    Fury can fight both british and American and Roy Jones. 3 styles better than 1
     
  11. Oxygene2

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    The feinting was excellent.

    Thing is, Fury is a real fighter. He has that "fighting" instinct. Very few truly have that.. most just learn to be good boxers and fighters. Of course, Fury had to learn too, but it feels extremely natural and he exudes creativity and understanding of dynamics in fights.

    He has a good base to work off to forge a very fine career, so it's down to motivation and discipline now. There will be plenty of worthy opponents coming + possible Wlad rematch.
     
  12. ellerbe

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    I'm a fan of the sport, I like Broner, Khan, hell even Victor Ortiz, Berto, all of these guys have given us fantastic fights, how can you not be a fan of them?
     
  13. YesMySon

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    those shoulder rolls would make floyd proud.
     
  14. The Smoking Man

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    No I think your insane with that tbh lol fury just beat the most feared heavyweight in the world and you think he will duck wilder lol I give Joshua a grrat chance in a few years but wilder will be embarrassed and beaten to a pulp. That's if he can even get past povetkin
     
  15. ellerbe

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    Dude you always write Wilder off, just like you did against Stiverne. You'll find an excuse once they fight, if you like we can both put up 20 dollars, and send it to someone like CST as a middleman, if they do fight. Put your money where your mouth is.