Tyson Fury on Anthony Joshua: 'He's only for cleaning Gyms, if you want an easy win - fight him.

Because you think Fury/aj is a good idea. It's not. Aj gets hurt badly, so why such the fascination with the fight

Unless you're just arguing about Wilder/aj. In that case I don't care. Neither deserve a shot rn

 

Certainly in the first two or three rounds he looked tentative, as I said. But then he started to find his rhytm, but it's also true that Helenius started to tire. The body punches could have something to do with that, though.

A comparison with Wilder's win is hard to make, since all that happened was a bad mistake from Helenius that Wilder capitalised on. How Wilder would have reacted if Helenius had been patiently using his long jab instead, like he did against Joshua, we don't know.

 

He probably would've just clipped him at range Wilder is a gunslinger

 

I had it as the fourth best option for Fury right now. After Usyk, the winner Joyce/Zhang and Hrgovic. How is that fascination?

 

Maybe, maybe not.

Probably at some point.

But I'd be anything but surprised if Helenius was ahead at that time.

 

I didn't see that my bad

 

Since you did, I will say that agree that a tentative AJ will get his head boxed off by Fury. He need to get his old confidence back to have a chance and that might never happen.

But I do think Fury never intended to face him in 2021. Perhaps not last year either, even though that would have been easy money.

That's how far Fury will go to avoid the ones he think most likely to bust his 0.

 

It'd be his best win, of course. Not sure what you're getting at? deflecting from criticism of Fury?

 

My point is that maybe Tyson Fury isn't really a "joke" just because you say he is. He'd be the best name on AJ's resume, by far.

 

That's silly to suggest. Fury would fight cautious against AJ. He'd fight smart and probably keep a distance. And I would favor Fury, but no way does he spark out or brutalize AJ. Aj isn't a one dimensional slugger like Wilder.

 

Markus, that's not his style to try s bum rush and simply take him out. Sometimes guys go for rounds. Happens all the time.

 

You....lost with me with this...anyway

Probably. But confidence can come back. Happens to guys.

Yes. Wilder was never recognizes as THE World Champ. Just a title holder. Basically a HW version of Andre Berto. AJ unified several belts. That carries a TON more weight then being a title holder with a terribly weak resume.

Markus, that's because resumes DO matter. Those new contenders MUST do something to separate themselves from anyone else. Hell, even Fury has poo-pooes other HW's because guess what, they did NOTHING to warrant a shot. It's not just about waiting in line, you have to PROVE it with wins over other top ranked HWs. Just facing no hopers waiting for a title shot is absolutely the worst thing to do. How do you not get it?

That shouldn't even require me explaining. I'll say Khang v Joyce is a good step. THat needs to happen more with the rest of the HW's. And guess what, AJ WILL face someone before a fight w/ Fury would even be considered. Usyk is the first an foremost logical next opponent for Fury. But this thread is about Fury;s **** talking. That's it. NO one is saying Fury MUST face AJ next.

My questions are because your are sort of all over the place. Resumes don't matter... top ranking HW's don't matter... just give ANYONE new a shot. That's crazy. Resumes and ranking absolutely do matter.

 

And that's how mandatories are created, through title eliminators. Aj, just like every other contender needs to fight each other for a opportunity to become champion.

Joyce and Zhang are going for an eliminator, Makhmudov beat Takam, and soon more will step up.

And he shouldn't

Not ajs. His time is done. He's been given enough title opportunities. I want to see other fighters (Other Ranked Contenders) have a go at Furys and Usyks belts

 

Like I said, he likely will. Fury has to worry about Usyk. So settle down some. Problem for you is, Aj is still highly ranked. Sorry you don't like it, but being the former world champ, a loss doesn't drop you out of the top 5.

Wilder v Aj is also a logical fight for both. Only thing is, Wilder will undoubtedly screw up negotiations. AGAIN.

They keep it up, they will get their shot. Probablem is, none of that means Fury will fight them. FURY is the problem in the HW division right now, not AJ.

He's NOT, so chill. ALL this thread is about is Fury's claim about AJ. Whether you like it or not, Fury v Aj is HUGE in the UK.

OMG.... change the record bro. He's not done unless some lower ranked MW clips him. And Aj has NOT had more than enough title shots...hell, you are OK with Wilder - Fury 4. Can't have it both ways, jesus. Aj was a champ and is allowed a rematch, that's all he got. THAT is a part of championship boxing.

 

I don't care really, if Fury wants to fight aj whatever, but if he has the choice to fight other newer ranked contenders via mandatory I perfer that, and realistically that's what he's probably going to do.

I think that should definitely be next

No I'm not, you're putting words I'm my mouth. I said I would perfer Wilder to fight Fury over aj if it really came down to it, but i don't want either of them to get a shot next in all honesty because they're both recycled