Tyson Fury - Overrated, underrated or somewhere in between?

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  1. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Nobody needs to wish anything.

    Fury has said himself he is looking forward to retiring in the sun on a beach somewhere.

    He's going into wrestling now and then MMA.

    His heart isn't in boxing anymore. The near death experience against Wilder took his will and heart away from the sport.

    I said it at the time of the fight, that he will look for a way out. The cut and all the other distractions are the perfect foil to escape away from the rematch.

    It's still laughable how his fans still maintain he won that fight, even after him insisting on two tune ups and doing everything he can to fight in the sport ever again.

    Those are not the actions of someone victorious or who felt they got the better of their opponent. Those are the actions of a coward who knows they will be on the receiving on a even greater more violent beating
     
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  2. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury hasn't insisted anything. He's doing exactly what his promoter (Bob Arum) has asked of him, which is exactly what 99% of fighters do.
     
  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    So you think Bob who has invested 100 of millions into his fighter, is advising him to retire at 31 years of age?

    You think Bob down in Las Vagas with Fury hounding him to fight vagabond after vagabond in front of 6,000 people and run away from the big money fights?
     
  4. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Fury has three fights left on his deal with Bob which he has stated he'll take and then possibly retire. That's the deal Bob gave him and Bob has no choice whether or not Fury extends said deal.

    Bob said all along he wanted two fights after Wilder to let the rematch 'marinate'. Bob's words. Bob also said he gives Fury the list of opponents and Fury picks from Bob's list. Again, that's Bob's policy thus far.

    So yes, Fury is doing exactly as Bob wants. Bob has also signed contracts for Wilder 2 and Wilder 3 so I see no reason why those fights won't happen.

    You said after the first Wilder fight that Fury won't rematch Wilder. That was your big statement and you're absolutely desperate to be proved right by the looks of things. But if you've been paying attention, Fury has simply done exactly as Bob has asked. Like I said earlier, that's what 99% of fighters do.

    The contracts are signed for the trilogy. Why not just wait and see how it goes?
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Believe me I would love nothing more than to see Fury find the courage to fight Wilder again.

    I wish it was on next week. Me being proved right once again isn't something I desire over seeing a big fight

    I would say for yours and Fury's sake he doesn't take the fight. Because believe me if he does it won't be a nice ending for Fury in that ring.

    He will pay dearly for all of his transgressions. All from the time he cheated Wlad out a rematch. To abusing the drug testers who came knocking on his door asking for a sample, tp the lies about giving his purse to children's and homeless persons charity,when they didn't receive a God damn penny,. To wishing hell fire and brimstone on homosexuals, all the roids and class A drugs, to turning his back on the immediate rematch and being disrespectful to Wilder after giving him a title shot without having to earn it. And now removing the padding from his gloves so he could inflict critical life changing injuries to his opponent.

    He will get punished for of this and more if he is step foot in that ring with Wilder again. Better you pray for his sake it does not happen.
     
  6. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stopped reading after "me being proved right once again" - ya bleedin headcase. Goodnight.
     
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  7. Citizen Smith

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    4 of those points are as yet not proven. I have said plenty about Tyson, but this is madness.
     
  8. Jurgen

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    Could not stand the man myself in the ring with his boring style of boxthing (eg Wlad stinker) but my view changed when he rose from the canvas against Wilder.

    No heart some people post - have a look at that knockdown on youtube before posting.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You shouldn't say things like "believe me." No one believes you because you obviously have sexual feelings for Wilder; feelings that cloud your judgement and make you think that a clumsy hoodrat who targets medically unfit fighters is some kind of legitimate "champion."

    I thought you were dead, dude. I'm genuinely glad that you didn't get yourself killed in some crackhouse prostitution deal like I suspected.
     
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  10. TonyHayers

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    How do you know the contracts are signed for the trilogy?

    Seems a bit of an odd situation doesn’t it? Have the first fight, then drum up a load of noise about the rematch. But before that, one guy fights someone else, and then signs to fight a guy he’s already beaten. The other fights a complete nobody in front of nobody. Then he does that again. And then he joins the circus.

    What on earth is written into these contracts?
     
  11. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to all parties involved the contracts have been signed. (Arum, Fury, Wilder)

    Is it really that odd Tony? Nah, it's not. We've been told exactly what's happening and so far that's what has happened. I don't understand the confusion myself after being told by Bob Arum exactly what is happening. Two fights each and a rematch. It's not exactly rocket science!
     
  12. Twentyman

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    Congratulations mate, you get the ‘most times you can say Bob in a post’ trophy. You smashed it haha :)
     
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  13. TonyHayers

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    I’m not sure how you can say it’s not odd.

    “I’m desperate to rematch Wilder and prove I am both the best and that I was robbed. But first, I think I’ll fight two complete nobodies in fights nobody wants to see, and then I’ll do some wrestling, so the rematch might not take place for eighteen months.”

    That clearly isn’t all that normal for a contracted rematch.
     
  14. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whose quote is that? Are you making things up again?

    Arum signed Fury and drew up the blueprint. Not only did he draw it up, but he told the public exactly what the blueprint is - two fights and then the Wilder rematch. Nothing has changed.

    But please, do continue to embellish your unhealthy obsession.
     
  15. TonyHayers

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    Did he really tell the public that was the plan all along? I seem to remember a hell of a lot of people assumed the rematch was a dead cert and would happen straight away?