Tyson Fury Rocky Redemption Propaganda Destroyed All Objectivity Surrounding This Fight

Jacob Hall · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

First of all let me just say congratulations to both of these warriors who provided us with a great magical night of boxing which we've all been yearning for for years, between two prime undefeated champions going up against each other. The best fighting the best.

It's fitting that two titans, two kings who were willing to leave it all on the line, shared a draw. They can stand side by side as the two best heavyweights in the division and they sure enough proved that on that performance.

It proved both are capable of beating Joshua without much of a problem. We all know Joshua hasn't faced a capable southpaw in his god damn life.(Charles martin doesn't count) So what chance would have against Fury. And what would he do to survive Wilder's right hand when he doesn't have Fury's feints, height, reach or movement.

He now has a choice does he want a long hellish 36 minute prison sentence getting embarrassed by Fury, or does he want death by firing squad by choosing Wilder.

Now let's get into the heart of the matter and look into how pro Fury propaganda in the build up, during fight commentary and post fight which skewed the perception of the events unfolding last saturday night.

The old fairy tell, woe is me, mental health sob story bs painted fury as some kind of heroic good guy who deserved to win

I'm going to dispel and tear down this ridiculous fantasy

It wasn't so long ago Fury was the most despised. destested and ridiculed man in the uk and in boxing not so long ago.

The moment he's scheduled to fight Wilder is the moment everyone and their dog suddenly rallies behind him. They almost made it out as if it was Wilder's fault for Fury going off the rails.

The self inflicted drug abuse, the roids, the taking boxing into disrepute by telling doping inspectors to **** off when they arrived at his doorstep requesting a second samples of his failed test, all wiped away, just so people can root for Fury against Wilder.

Can you imagine if Wilder had history of failing drug tests, posting instagram pictures of himself snorting cocaine, going off the rails and then making a come back? He'd be called a crackhead, a drug cheat lazy good for nothing waster.

And there'd be no ridiculous narrative of him doing mental health a big favor by returning to boxing after going off the rails for 2 years

Absolutely laughable, and even die hard boxing fans have fallen for all the tripe and allowed it poison their ability to judge a championship fight the right way.

There is nothing romantic or fairy tale liken about a drug addict, certified roid cheat returning to the ring and

I watched the fight on mute without the biased emotional driven hyperbolic commentary that was all pro fury along with the entire audience who were all willing and looking for any reason to give fury round after round. So it's understandable the msm would all churn out the same trotted out nonsense that fury schooled hi,

It's unbelievable how people mindlessly regurgitate and parrot other people's opinions like dumb sheep/donkey hybrids

''fury schooled him'' bahhhhhh

Fury was robbed''' bahhhhh

''Wilder did nothing just relied on power '' bbahhhhhhh

No Fury wasn't robbed he was damn well lucky to leave that arena still breathing. You can't dish out a schooling when you've been put on your back twice. Pitter patter punches here and there whilst prancing, dancing/ showboating whilst running isn't enough to win a genuine championship fight.

When Kovalev drilled Andre Ward to the canvas just once, there were many including myself who still hold to this day that he was robbed in spite of Ward's valiant effort in coming back and taking control in the second half of the fight.

So now Wilder knocks Fury in a more devastating fashion twice, there is no benefit of the doubt. I wonder why??

Look at the punch stats. How on earth can you school someone when you've been out-landed and the other party has landed the more power shots per round and been the aggressor throughout the fight? This wasn't the klitchko fight where Wlad didn't lay a glove on fury.

Just look at the state of Fury's face and his reaction after the fight. He was relieved to be still alive and he said it himself, Wilder's the most fearsome puncher and he wouldn't want to be hit again with those right hands.

The fact is Wilder is the most hated man in the sport.

He was never going to be given the benefit of the doubt regardless what he did the ring. I said it before the fight this was 50/50 and it was going to be his toughest test fighting the best Tyson Fury.

The fight played out exactly as I predicted, minus seeing Jack Reiss giving Fury all the time in the world to have a nap before advising him to walk it off. The only thing he forget to do was cradle fury in his arms and tell him everything was all right.

Let us not forget that Jack Reiss, personally went into Fury's dressing room prior to the fight, to inform him that in the event of him being knocked down, he would give him every opportunity in the world to recover, providing he had enough strength to mutter the words that he was ok.

It didn't matter that fury's body was stone cold stiff. It didn't matter if Fury's eye's rolled to the back of his skull. It didn't matter if Fury's heart had stopped momentarily. So long as Papa Jack heard his son tell him that he was alright.

There's a reason why Fury was so thankful to Jack in his press conference. He know he owes him the world for earning him that draw. Yes he earned him a draw.

The same mongrels who were shouting Fury was robbed and judges ruining the sport, were calling for Wilder to be waved off when Ortiz had him stunned.

Now they're saying the ref did the right thing. I say he is the one who needs investigating. Why isn't anyone calling for him to be banned from the sport?

That fight should have been waved off instantly the moment Fury's head bounced off the canvas.

Wilder was robbed off a knockout victory, that is true tradegy in this whole drama. Nevertheless credit to both men and we will hopefully be treated to rematch while the roided robot will continue to feast on russian midgets.
Click to expand...

someones been crying since saturday lol

chico g · Dec 4, 2018

There was some crazy gypsy magic going on in that fight. Reminds me of that stephen king film Thinner, with Tyson Fury. How do he lose all that weight? Is he just going to keep losing it until he's a skeleton? Lol wait till the results of the drug tests. I suspect a fat cutting drug to show up soon. Lol.

PH|LLA · Dec 4, 2018

AJ is the top dog in this division and this showed it.

Ukansodoff · Dec 4, 2018

Damn Stephanie your attempts to hide your hate and massive double standards in this thread hasn't worked. You just sound like the wilder fan girl that you are.

Wilder lost and that was most likely not the "best" Tyson fury yet. It only gets worse for wilder from here on in. Unless he goes back to the safety of fighting bums where any progress he made in his popularity and fame will quickly diminish again or he can keep fighting the best and just get beat again. But cuz the fury or aj fight would have to be in the UK there will be a much more honesty in the score cards, not that Joshua let's him see 12 rounds.

Liquorice · Dec 4, 2018

Wilders fans are embarrassed that there basketball hero was exposed by a man who only a year or so before weighed 28 stone & was in the midst of a 3 year drink & cocaine bender.. Now they are smashing the damage control function & acting like 2 KDs win a fight! It's called the sweet science... Fury OUTBOXED him, OUT MANOEUVRED him & LANDED him.

No way would the Wilder fan boys be saying Wilder won if he was dropped twice yet outboxed Fury! Fury flipped the script again & Wilders winning streak came to an end, deal with it!

Keep crying all your life

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

Liquorice said: ↑

Wilders fans are embarrassed that there basketball hero was exposed by a man who only a year or so before weighed 28 stone & was in the midst of a 3 year drink & cocaine bender.. Now they are smashing the damage control function & acting like 2 KDs win a fight! It's called the sweet science... Fury OUTBOXED him, OUT MANOEUVRED him & LANDED him.

No way would the Wilder fan boys be saying Wilder won if he was dropped twice yet outboxed Fury! Fury flipped the script again & Wilders winning streak came to an end, deal with it!

Keep crying all your life
Click to expand...

Damage control?

Who was the one stuffing coke up their nose whilst on roids and blaming it on all the media?

You stupid ignorant fury cultists bring up his time away from the ring as its a badge of honour.

The fact of the matter is if a fighter isn't dedicated to their craft and chooses instead to cheat, party and participate in drug paraphernalia, that's on them.

He doesn't deserve credit for that.

You can bark and repeat repetitive Twitter soundbites to the cows come home about schooling outboxing robbery and all the other parroted tosh you've heard on the msm.

The fact is there is no challenger in history that has beaten a champion through a decision after getting completely flattened twice.

George groves froch rematch the fight was immediately waved off after George was savagely knocked down without any count.

Why? Because he was momentarily completely unconscious the same way your roided coke fiend drug cheat hero was.

There will be a rematch and wilder will finish the job so you mutts won't be able to cry about judges. By then Fury will be left speaking like Evander Holyfield.

Makuza · Dec 4, 2018

This is laughable, AJ wouldn't need to "survive" Wilder's rights he would knock him out in good time with combinations early, you see, Wilder has a strong right but AJ has equal power with precise lefts, rights, hooks, straights, uppercuts... He'll walk through Wilder and Fury would succumb eventually, just like the rest of his victims... All evidence shows AJ is number one, until physically proven otherwise. Not saying its impossible for Wilder or Fury to topple AJ, just highly unlikely given what all fighters actually done in the ring, no hypothetical nonesense, AJ is twice the size of Wilder, just like Fury, but instead of dancing and boxing he'll overwhelm and destroy Wilder... I can't believe people actually think otherwise tbh.

Liquorice · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

The fact is there is no challenger in history that has beaten a champion through a decision after getting completely flattened twice.

George groves froch rematch the fight was immediately waved off after George was savagely knocked down without any count.

Why? Because he was momentarily completely unconscious the same way your roided coke fiend drug cheat hero was.

There will be a rematch and wilder will finish the job so you mutts won't be able to cry about judges. By then Fury will be left speaking like Evander Holyfield.
Click to expand...

Rafael Ruelas was dropped twice challenging Pendleton & won

More fail... Stick to your cartoons bro.

nurological · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Damage control?

Who was the one stuffing coke up their nose whilst on roids and blaming it on all the media?

You stupid ignorant fury cultists bring up his time away from the ring as its a badge of honour.

The fact of the matter is if a fighter isn't dedicated to their craft and chooses instead to cheat, party and participate in drug paraphernalia, that's on them.

He doesn't deserve credit for that.

You can bark and repeat repetitive Twitter soundbites to the cows come home about schooling outboxing robbery and all the other parroted tosh you've heard on the msm.

The fact is there is no challenger in history that has beaten a champion through a decision after getting completely flattened twice.

George groves froch rematch the fight was immediately waved off after George was savagely knocked down without any count.

Why? Because he was momentarily completely unconscious the same way your roided coke fiend drug cheat hero was.

There will be a rematch and wilder will finish the job so you mutts won't be able to cry about judges. By then Fury will be left speaking like Evander Holyfield.
Click to expand...

Pathetic

Darxide · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Yes he beat a 20 second count after being cradled and told to walk it off.
Click to expand...

That has been disproved. Your posting in it's entirety is full of bitterness and inaccuracy, the bias and unwillingness to accept the truth is not doing you any favors. Watch the fight again. I am a Wilder fan, but please.. how you can say this stuff.. you are basically saying the vast majority of people who watched the fight were blinded by propaganda. You are in the extreme minority of people who saw something other than what the vast majority saw... ask yourself a question: Is it truely likely that Wilder (a great champion! Fantastic exciting fighter) has that many haters?

Just watch the fight again..

Wilder was outboxed in EVERY round, the knockdowns, especially the twelfth proved he is the best puncher in the division. I don't hate Wilder in the slightest, I admire him, he did better than Wlad did vs Fury and thats saying a great deal! Just give Fury the credit he deserves for fighting like that.. he proved just how good he is.

The count was actually amazingly fair and yes many refs could have waved it off prematurely.. but Reis did a great job.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

Liquorice said: ↑

Rafael Ruelas was dropped twice challenging Pendleton & won

More fail... Stick to your cartoons bro.
Click to expand...

Anymore examples you got there?

I Didn't think so.

You have to go back 2 decades to see for an anomaly to find a similar comparison where in there were two flash knockdowns. Now that is desperate

Why don't you tell us how you felt about the 1st Kovalev vs Ward fight? I bet you were complaining robbery there when there was only one knock down.

Funny how you can't address the rest of my post, dodging the truth like a coward

I use to like Fury, but I lost a fair amount of respect when he started talking about being robbed of a draw. and how he was doing the world a favor by coming back from his drug holiday

He should be happy he retained a draw, and be happy he retained his life because there is no way in hell he did enough to win the fight when he was in survival mode through half of the fight.

One part of me is hoping and looking forward to the rematch, another part of me genuinely fears for Fury's welfare because his God isnt going to be there again to perform another miracle to breath life back into his body when Wilder busts the back of his skull against the canvas again.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

Darxide said: ↑

That has been disproved. Your posting in it's entirety is full of bitterness and inaccuracy, the bias and unwillingness to accept the truth is not doing you any favors. Watch the fight again. I am a Wilder fan, but please.. how you can say this stuff.. you are basically saying the vast majority of people who watched the fight were blinded by propaganda. You are in the extreme minority of people who saw something other than what the vast majority saw... ask yourself a question: Is it truely likely that Wilder (a great champion! Fantastic exciting fighter) has that many haters?

Just watch the fight again..

Wilder was outboxed in EVERY round, the knockdowns, especially the twelfth proved he is the best puncher in the division. I don't hate Wilder in the slightest, I admire him, he did better than Wlad did vs Fury and thats saying a great deal! Just give Fury the credit he deserves for fighting like that.. he proved just how good he is.

The count was actually amazingly fair and yes many refs could have waved it off prematurely.. but Reis did a great job.
Click to expand...

Of course he has that many haters. There is no question.

It's floyd mayweather all over again when it comes to the level of hate for reasons outside of boxing.

These people look in every hidden creak and corner to find any excuse to find a reason why they felt they lost a fight and why they're bad.

Wilder was criticized for having a rematch clause in the contract before the fight.

If wilder was knocked out unconscious flat on his back for 7 seconds straight before showing any signs of life, do you really think anyone would say he won the fight?

Look at the reaction when he was checked out by the ringside doctor in the Ortiz fight, there was complete uproar by these same double standards agenda driven posters crying for investigations to take place.

But when it happens against Wilder, its ok. It's all fine

I say Jack Reese needs investigating. Jack Reese needs to be banned from boxing and needs questioning on why he felt the need to reassure Fury before the fight in his dressing room, that he would give him all the time in the world to recover providing he could mutter some words back to him rather than judging and assessing the state of Fury's physical condition after a knockdown.

Ukansodoff · Dec 4, 2018

So its not ok for the ref to have a serious look at a man who has just got up from being brutally knocked to the ground to make sure he is fit to continue, which by the way is his job to do. Yes Fury was up but he still has to do what he did next. But its perfectly fine to spend even more time taking Wilder to one side at the start of a round after a minutes rest to see if hes ok like what happened in the Ortiz fight?

But thats Stephanie for you. She keeps making these threads which completely contradict previous threads or posts she has posted on. Shes a bit of a joke im afraid.

Ukansodoff · Dec 4, 2018

How can Fury fans dare to say Fury won that fight when he was knocked down twice??? What a great question Stephanie love. The answer is by winning most or all the other rounds, the ones where he didnt get knocked down. Wilder won 3 rounds the whole fight.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

Ukansodoff said: ↑

So its not ok for the ref to have a serious look at a man who has just got up from being brutally knocked to the ground to make sure he is fit to continue, which by the way is his job to do. Yes Fury was up but he still has to do what he did next. But its perfectly fine to spend even more time taking Wilder to one side at the start of a round after a minutes rest to see if hes ok like what happened in the Ortiz fight?

But thats Stephanie for you. She keeps making these threads which completely contradict previous threads or posts she has posted on. Shes a bit of a joke im afraid.
Click to expand...

You utter moron.

This stephanie business, isn't getting you anywhere.

Fantasizing about me being a girl reflects badly on you, you gimp.

If my threads are such a joke, why are you continuously monitoring and entertaining them?

Because you know deep down, its the truth and you are not going to get these kind of breakdown on fights anywhere else.

That redneck fury loving ref has some explaining to do.

A ref normally asks a fight to hold his gloves up after returning to his feet, not walk around ring around the ring for a few yards to walk off the hurt.

He didn't even get fury to lift his gloves up to his head for the 1st knock down and 2nd knock down.

He was just talking and talking about God knows what, to fury to buy his boy some time.

Log in or Sign up

Tyson Fury Rocky Redemption Propaganda Destroyed All Objectivity Surrounding This Fight

Jacob Hall Member Full Member

chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Makuza New Member Full Member

Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

Darxide Active Member Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Log in or Sign up

Forums

Tyson Fury Rocky Redemption Propaganda Destroyed All Objectivity Surrounding This Fight

Jacob Hall Member Full Member

chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Makuza New Member Full Member

Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

Darxide Active Member Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member