Tyson Fury Rocky Redemption Propaganda Destroyed All Objectivity Surrounding This Fight

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

305th said: ↑

Agreed on the commentary. You expect a narrative, but Malig was talking about how much better Fury's jab was than Wilder's in very emphatic terms within literally 30 seconds of the first round.
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This is precisely the problem which I've been stressing.

Fury didn't do much at all those first 1-3 rounds yet the msm and tv networks along with the cultists would have you believe Fury was schooling and out landing wilder. Hence all the parroting and confirmation bias.

We know that isn't the reality. We have the facts through the compubox stats along with possessing an objective mind that can understand that what we're hearing from the hacks doesn't line up to what we're actually seeing.

That stuff can fool the impressionable feeble mind but it can't fool those who are truly knowledgeable.

The Long Count · Dec 4, 2018

Fury schooled Wilder so badly he handed him a birthday cake when the fight was over lol

305th · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

This is precisely the problem which I've been stressing.

Fury didn't do much at all those first 1-3 rounds yet the msm and tv networks along with the cultists would have you believe Fury was schooling and out landing wilder. Hence all the parroting and confirmation bias.

We know that isn't the reality. We have the facts through the compubox stats along with possessing an objective mind that can understand that what we're hearing from the hacks doesn't line up to what we're actually seeing.

That stuff can fool the impressionable feeble mind but it can't fool those who are truly knowledgeable.
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There really wasn't much in the first few rounds at all and it certainly wasn't a schooling from the start IMHO.

Damn Daily Motion finally seem to have been got at by the networks. Can't see a vid on there of it otherwise I'd go and check.

What's the deal with Paulie and Wilder then anyone know? It's a bit unfortunate for Wilder given he's given a lot of airtime.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

305th said: ↑

There really wasn't much in the first few rounds at all and it certainly wasn't a schooling from the start IMHO.

Damn Daily Motion finally seem to have been got at by the networks. Can't see a vid on there of it otherwise I'd go and check.

What's the deal with Paulie and Wilder then anyone know? It's a bit unfortunate for Wilder given he's given a lot of airtime.
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Don't have a clue what paulie has against Wilder.

All I know is that he's had it in for him for a very long time and would have loved nothing more than to see Furys hand raised.

He was willing for it to happen the moment the first bell sounded

Reg · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Allowing a fighter lay flat on the ground and sleep for 7 seconds before starting a count isn't standard practice.
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Tyson was standing before the end of the count so clearly it was the right call.

Ph33rknot · Dec 4, 2018

i always thought he had a chance to embarrass Wilder

Tankatron · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Don't have a clue what paulie has against Wilder.

All I know is that he's had it in for him for a very long time and would have loved nothing more than to see Furys hand raised.

He was willing for it to happen the moment the first bell sounded
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I think Paulies main issues with Wilder are he's an absolute ****ing clown in the ring when it comes to boxing skills. Constantly spouts bile and shite from his pie hole. Has only really stepped up to world class opposition in his last few fights and generally comes across as a protected and pampered homeboy, paper champion.

Other than that, I'm sure Paulie has nothing but complete and utter respect, eerrrr sorry contempt for the lanky streak of ****, goof ball that is Deonkey Wilder

OpinionOfACasual · Dec 4, 2018

I do enjoy these posts.

Ex pros like Mayweather, Lennox Lewis and Malignaggi believe Wilder was exposed.

But this random guy on a forum clearly knows whats up.

BCS8 · Dec 4, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 is the guy that has been riding Wilder's lovestick for years now.

It's no wonder at all that he's saltier than the Dead Sea after what Tyson Fury did to his hero.

Truth is, after the Pianeta fight I gave Fury very little chance at all of beating Wilder. Lest we forget, Pianeta is the guy that was derided by some when prime as a soft touch for Wlad. The version of Pianeta we saw against Fury was the worst yet, the guy was a heifer and he was still managing to land some leather on Fury. I was certain that Wilder would land on Fury sooner rather than later, and that Fury - if he survived the early onslaught - would gas and get blasted out late.

Yet, what did we see?

We saw that Wilder had the greatest of difficulty in landing anything on a crap version of Fury. We saw Fury slip, and taunt and beat Wilder's face into a swollen mess by the end of the fight. We saw that WILDER GASSED and a fat beached whale version of Fury did not. In short, we saw Wilder take the beating that I thought he'd get against a prime version of Tyson Fury. Remember, this is the pork pie version of Fury we saw.

Yeah, Wilder fans can use the two KD's as a fig leaf to cover their embarrassment.

But it's a very small fig leaf because other than that he got his ears boxed off and he looked like a champion chump.

You don't win a fight off 2 KD's when you've been clowned for 12 rounds on the trot.

You don't win a fight when 90% of your swings are ventilating the front rows.

OP must grow up and buy Wilder a book on boxing for Xmas.

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 4, 2018

BCS8 said: ↑

Sephiroth Rising 7 is the guy that has been riding Wilder's lovestick for years now.

It's no wonder at all that he's saltier than the Dead Sea after what Tyson Fury did to his hero.

Truth is, after the Pianeta fight I gave Fury very little chance at all of beating Wilder. Lest we forget, Pianeta is the guy that was derided by some when prime as a soft touch for Wlad. The version of Pianeta we saw against Fury was the worst yet, the guy was a heifer and he was still managing to land some leather on Fury. I was certain that Wilder would land on Fury sooner rather than later, and that Fury - if he survived the early onslaught - would gas and get blasted out late.

Yet, what did we see?

We saw that Wilder had the greatest of difficulty in landing anything on a crap version of Fury. We saw Fury slip, and taunt and beat Wilder's face into a swollen mess by the end of the fight. We saw that WILDER GASSED and a fat beached whale version of Fury did not. In short, we saw Wilder take the beating that I thought he'd get against a prime version of Tyson Fury. Remember, this is the pork pie version of Fury we saw.

Yeah, Wilder fans can use the two KD's as a fig leaf to cover their embarrassment.

But it's a very small fig leaf because other than that he got his ears boxed off and he looked like a champion chump.

You don't win a fight off 2 KD's when you've been clowned for 12 rounds on the trot.

You don't win a fight when 90% of your swings are ventilating the front rows.

OP must grow up and buy Wilder a book on boxing for Xmas.
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You just exposed yourself as the example of a prime agenda driven moron.

You were one of the many on here who were screaming to the death that kovalev got robbed against Andre Ward after ONE knockdown. You even brought up the fact that Ward had to wear sunglasses due to the state of his face, and care he was outboxing and making SK miss in the second half of the fight.

You talked about kovalev should be given the benefit of the doubt due to being champ and it didn't matter if he was outboxed, he landed the harder shots was your argument.

Now hear you are championing Fury's boxing and pretending that he won all the rounds.

You couldn't make it up.

We know your agenda, you belong in the lounge.

You even blame Wilder for povetkin failing doping tests.

You're utter utter moron. We had the same problem with you with Mayweather vs Mcgregor. You were begging for conor to win and arguing that he was superior to floyd.

Remove yourself from my sight, and don't you dare tag my name again.

vast · Dec 5, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

First of all let me just say congratulations to both of these warriors who provided us with a great magical night of boxing which we've all been yearning for for years, between two prime undefeated champions going up against each other. The best fighting the best.

It's fitting that two titans, two kings who were willing to leave it all on the line, shared a draw. They can stand side by side as the two best heavyweights in the division and they sure enough proved that on that performance.

It proved both are capable of beating Joshua without much of a problem. We all know Joshua hasn't faced a capable southpaw in his god damn life.(Charles martin doesn't count) So what chance would have against Fury. And what would he do to survive Wilder's right hand when he doesn't have Fury's feints, height, reach or movement.

He now has a choice does he want a long hellish 36 minute prison sentence getting embarrassed by Fury, or does he want death by firing squad by choosing Wilder.

Now let's get into the heart of the matter and look into how pro Fury propaganda in the build up, during fight commentary and post fight which skewed the perception of the events unfolding last saturday night.

The old fairy tell, woe is me, mental health sob story bs painted fury as some kind of heroic good guy who deserved to win

I'm going to dispel and tear down this ridiculous fantasy

It wasn't so long ago Fury was the most despised. destested and ridiculed man in the uk and in boxing not so long ago.

The moment he's scheduled to fight Wilder is the moment everyone and their dog suddenly rallies behind him. They almost made it out as if it was Wilder's fault for Fury going off the rails.

The self inflicted drug abuse, the roids, the taking boxing into disrepute by telling doping inspectors to **** off when they arrived at his doorstep requesting a second samples of his failed test, all wiped away, just so people can root for Fury against Wilder.

Can you imagine if Wilder had history of failing drug tests, posting instagram pictures of himself snorting cocaine, going off the rails and then making a come back? He'd be called a crackhead, a drug cheat lazy good for nothing waster.

And there'd be no ridiculous narrative of him doing mental health a big favor by returning to boxing after going off the rails for 2 years

Absolutely laughable, and even die hard boxing fans have fallen for all the tripe and allowed it poison their ability to judge a championship fight the right way.

There is nothing romantic or fairy tale liken about a drug addict, certified roid cheat returning to the ring and

I watched the fight on mute without the biased emotional driven hyperbolic commentary that was all pro fury along with the entire audience who were all willing and looking for any reason to give fury round after round. So it's understandable the msm would all churn out the same trotted out nonsense that fury schooled hi,

It's unbelievable how people mindlessly regurgitate and parrot other people's opinions like dumb sheep/donkey hybrids

''fury schooled him'' bahhhhhh

Fury was robbed''' bahhhhh

''Wilder did nothing just relied on power '' bbahhhhhhh

No Fury wasn't robbed he was damn well lucky to leave that arena still breathing. You can't dish out a schooling when you've been put on your back twice. Pitter patter punches here and there whilst prancing, dancing/ showboating whilst running isn't enough to win a genuine championship fight.

When Kovalev drilled Andre Ward to the canvas just once, there were many including myself who still hold to this day that he was robbed in spite of Ward's valiant effort in coming back and taking control in the second half of the fight.

So now Wilder knocks Fury in a more devastating fashion twice, there is no benefit of the doubt. I wonder why??

Look at the punch stats. How on earth can you school someone when you've been out-landed and the other party has landed the more power shots per round and been the aggressor throughout the fight? This wasn't the klitchko fight where Wlad didn't lay a glove on fury.

Just look at the state of Fury's face and his reaction after the fight. He was relieved to be still alive and he said it himself, Wilder's the most fearsome puncher and he wouldn't want to be hit again with those right hands.

The fact is Wilder is the most hated man in the sport.

He was never going to be given the benefit of the doubt regardless what he did the ring. I said it before the fight this was 50/50 and it was going to be his toughest test fighting the best Tyson Fury.

The fight played out exactly as I predicted, minus seeing Jack Reiss giving Fury all the time in the world to have a nap before advising him to walk it off. The only thing he forget to do was cradle fury in his arms and tell him everything was all right.

Let us not forget that Jack Reiss, personally went into Fury's dressing room prior to the fight, to inform him that in the event of him being knocked down, he would give him every opportunity in the world to recover, providing he had enough strength to mutter the words that he was ok.

It didn't matter that fury's body was stone cold stiff. It didn't matter if Fury's eye's rolled to the back of his skull. It didn't matter if Fury's heart had stopped momentarily. So long as Papa Jack heard his son tell him that he was alright.

There's a reason why Fury was so thankful to Jack in his press conference. He know he owes him the world for earning him that draw. Yes he earned him a draw.

The same mongrels who were shouting Fury was robbed and judges ruining the sport, were calling for Wilder to be waved off when Ortiz had him stunned.

Now they're saying the ref did the right thing. I say he is the one who needs investigating. Why isn't anyone calling for him to be banned from the sport?

That fight should have been waved off instantly the moment Fury's head bounced off the canvas.

Wilder was robbed off a knockout victory, that is true tradegy in this whole drama. Nevertheless credit to both men and we will hopefully be treated to rematch while the roided robot will continue to feast on russian midgets.
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You not only need help, you need to look at Wilders face post fight. He got pounded.

Guybino · Dec 5, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

You just exposed yourself as the example of a prime agenda driven moron.

You were one of the many on here who were screaming to the death that kovalev got robbed against Andre Ward after ONE knockdown. You even brought up the fact that Ward had to wear sunglasses due to the state of his face, and care he was outboxing and making SK miss in the second half of the fight.

You talked about kovalev should be given the benefit of the doubt due to being champ and it didn't matter if he was outboxed, he landed the harder shots was your argument.

Now hear you are championing Fury's boxing and pretending that he won all the rounds.

You couldn't make it up.

We know your agenda, you belong in the lounge.

You even blame Wilder for povetkin failing doping tests.

You're utter utter moron. We had the same problem with you with Mayweather vs Mcgregor. You were begging for conor to win and arguing that he was superior to floyd.

Remove yourself from my sight, and don't you dare tag my name again.
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Hey Steph,

Cry me a river

Sephiroth Rising 7 · Dec 5, 2018

vast said: ↑

You not only need help, you need to look at Wilders face post fight. He got pounded.
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What a swollen eye?

Compared to Fury's face who looked like he had been run and reversed over by a bus.

Who was the one clawing their way back up from the floor and spoiling through the fight looking to hang for dear life?

Like I said before, I can't wait for the rematch, because fury getting done in for good.

And you cry and knock yourself out, over his sob stories when you're watching his new post fight documentaries on how he's finally learning how to dress and feed himself and walk and talk again after recovering from a beating of a lifetime.

bailey · Dec 5, 2018

Sephiroth Rising 7 said: ↑

Fury was staggering and taking awkward steps forward.

It was if he had downed 7 pints of stella and told by the police to walk in a straight line.
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No he wasn't. He was still on the spot. Told to go to walk towards the ref and was able to carry on because he wasn't staggering

bailey · Dec 5, 2018

DoubleJ said: ↑

bwaahhaaa. Sucking Joe Cal's junk is not schooling anybody with facts.

You obviously feel a personal need to defend another man's paper thin legacy. Have at it.
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You being owned by facts is not me feeling a need to do anything.
Seems this is an issue you have. So much so that you have brought him up to me, in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with him. Lol
Seems you are a bit butthurt

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